four, and they need five conservative justices. if this draft alito opinion is legitimate and this is the direction the conservative justices are going, they don t care. alito even says essentially, i don t care about public opinion. we re doing what we think is right constitutionally. the question is, of course, as you re getting at, how does that motivate democratic voters ahead of november s midterms. democrats already facing a lot of headwinds, particularly economically. i don t know the answer to that. i will say in 2020, when republicans had just put justice amy coney barrett on the court and there was a lot of concern on the left that we d see this day right here, right now, it didn t do much to help democrats stay in power. they ended up losing seats to republicans. just keeping their majorities by a very slim amount. right. it is a good point indeed. washington post amber philips, we appreciate you starting your day with us today.