nail this down one county at a time. it can be tough to get folks on the phone at 2:00 in the morning, as you can imagine, let s see if that turns up anything that would change that thinking i just laid out for you but right now, potentially what we could identify a number of paths for murphy and tougher for ciattarelli. ciattarelli earlier this year to not it sounded like a victory speech but are more specific about when people are saying when we can declare a victory. murphy saying we re not talking about this until every vote is counted. steve kornacki, thank you. jonathan allen, senior reporter for nbc news, digital, eugene back with me. john allen, tell me what you make of this tonight? it s a big night for republicans and a bad night for democrats. the way you slice it, where joe biden and democrats were in