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Remains solid. Joining us for the hour is stephanie link what do you think the theme is here we started the day up almost triple digits on the day then loss were down triple digits now were somewhere in the middle crazy with earnings nonstop. The theme today is the shift right back to growth from value. Thanks to paypal, thanks to microsoft, thanks to service now, and value is under performing because i think its all about 3m and what they said. Weak china, weaken you a, to no green shoots after yesterday where caterpillar gave us some hope and boeing gave us hope today took it all back some commentary from the industrials so far, honeywell last week as well, some of the commentary has been a little bit better around china so i wonder how much of this you think is 3m specific and where their end markets are focused versus the broader sector especially in electronics i do think they have high variable costs at 3m so they have some Co ....