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In 2008 when putin was afraid georgia would join nato he took military action and did the same thing in 2014 with crimea. there is no reason to think if he doesn t feel pushed and threatened again he might take the same action. what would be a much better policy for the united states that many don t like but has the best chance of success is in zelinski s call should encourage them to declare neutrality so he won t go with gluten, won t go with us but that will lower their justification putin may have to do that but also put a buffer between russia and the nato countries where we have article 5 observations and lower the tension and be better for the united states because any possibility of conflict with russia could expand into nuclear exchange that would be catastrophic. edward: we don t know for sure, do that we think that was a ....

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