forget the wording you used that he s very curious, and such an effort by him to find out, hey, what did you guys talk about in there, would be natural if not proper. tell us about one of your stories that you and maggie also coauthored back in january 25th that prompted one of these conversations. we reported that last summer, trump had gone to mcgahn and asked him to get rid of mueller. and in the aftermath of that story, trump was very upset, especially because this had come out that mcgahn had told mueller about this and mueller knew about it. trump went to rob porter, who was still at the white house at the time, and told him that the president trump said that he wanted mcgahn to put out a statement that this was not true and that he would get rid of him if he didn t do that. porter relayed that message to mcgahn. mcgahn and the president then had a confrontation in the oval office in which the president said, look, this never happened. and mcgahn had to remind him of
president trump said that he wanted mcgahn to put out a statement that this was not true and that he would get rid of him if he didn t do that. porter relayed that message to mcgahn. mcgahn and the president then had a confrontation in the oval office in which the president said, look, this never happened. and mcgahn had to remind him of what had occurred over the summer when trump told him to call rosenstein and say that mueller had these conflicts and needed to go. just an incredible yarn. michael schmidt, one half of the writing duo of schmidt and haberman on the board tonight over at the new york times supplying our lead story. michael, thank you as always for being here with us on the show. and here to react now further, chuck rosenberg, a former u.s. attorney, former senior fbi official, currently an msnbc contributor. and we welcome back mika oyang, attorney and former staffer for the house intelligence and armed services committee. good evening and welcome to you both. ch
asked and what was said to the special counsel, and the concerns of those who are hearing trump is asking about what happened with the special counsel. there s a longstanding expectation and advice that folks who are in the center of an investigation should not speak, either with prosecutors or with witnesses, as it could create an appearance of trying to interfere with an investigation. and the president has disregarded this, disregarded it back in february 2017 when he spoke to jim comey about the flynn investigation, and now as the investigation intensifies, engaging with reince priebus about his interview, engaging with don mcgahn about reports that mcgahn had been told by trump to fire mueller. and if you re someone who is concerned about the appearance of obstruction, these types of things would alarm you. you point out in the story, you and maggie do, that i
had a confrontation in the oval office in which the president said, look, this never happened. and mcgahn had to remind him of what had occurred over the summer when trump told him to call rosenstein and say that mueller had these conflicts and needed to go. just an incredible yarn. michael schmidt, one half of the writing duo of schmidt and haberman on the board tonight over at the new york times supplying our lead story. michael, thank you as always for being here with us on the show. and here to react now further, chuck rosenberg, a former u.s. attorney, former senior fbi official, currently an msnbc contributor. and we welcome back mika oyang, attorney and former staffer for the house intelligence and armed services committee. good evening and welcome to you both. chuck, if you watch too many movies or legal shows on tv, you go around using phrases like, witness tampering. is there anything legally wrong,
the washington post in this russia investigation. times journalist michael schmidt and maggie haberman report president trump spoke to witnesses about their conversations with special counsel robert mueller s team. we will talk with michael schmidt in just a moment. they write according to three people familiar with these encounters the special counsel has learned of two conversations in recent months in which president trump asked key witnesses about matters they discussed with investigators. in one episode the president told an aide that the white house counsel, don f. mcgahn ii, should issue a statement denying a new york times article in january. the article said mr. mcgahn told investigators that the president once asked him to fire the special counsel, robert s. mueller. mr. mcgahn never released a statement and later had to remind the president that he had indeed asked mr. mcgahn to see that mr. mueller was dismissed, the people said. in the other episode, mr. trump asked