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Such a good bellwether state for the rest of the country. given the facts you will find ohio voters are going to make the right decisions. i m confident as they get the information, we know when they are given the facts about what senate bill 5 does, the numbers swing in our favor. i m looking forward to a spirited campaign and yes we will win in november. bill: it will be a centerpiece in november with both of these referendums. was the healthcare referendum pushed to counter the union referendum you knew would be on the ballot already, balance them out and bring out your supporters against healthcare? i can t speak to that because i was not involved in the effort to put the healthcare referendum on the ballot. i was involved in senate bill 5 and the checkive bargaining reforms because we needed to make changes in the state of ohio. we could no longer keep doing business as usual. so i can speak to senate bill 5, ....
And one of the reasons ohio is such a good bellwether state for the rest of the country. given the facts you will find ohio voters are going to make the right decisions. i m confident as they get the information, we know when they are given the facts about what senate bill 5 does, the numbers swing in our favor. i m looking forward to a spirited campaign and yes we will win in november. bill: it will be a centerpiece in november with both of these referendums. was the healthcare referendum pushed to counter the union referendum you knew would be on the ballot already, balance them out and bring out your supporters against healthcare? i can t speak to that because i was not involved in the effort to put the healthcare referendum on the ballot. i was involved in senate bill 5 and the checkive bargaining reforms because we needed to make changes in the state of ohio. we could no longer keep doing business as usual. ....
We will. reporter: richard, yesterday the treasury secretary of the white house chief of staff both on capitol hill, behind closed doors in the speaker s office all kinds of meetings, former house speaker, the democratic leader now nancy pelosi also meeting with boehner, they are talking about vote counts, they are talking about any combinations of things, any combination of votes and policy that will get them over the finish line and avert that financial catastrophe. hats the thought there in washington right now. this is what we to see the sides coming forward. you mentioned the president coming to reach out to the u.s. citizenry and trying to get their support. who has momentum now? reporter: it s interesting and perhaps bittersweet for many republicans who were swept into power taking over the house of representatives on the strength of their platform of not doing business as usual here in washington and not to mention the president himself who ran on a similar platform. back ....
Know from experience, they re not pleasant. what is it about the newspapers and the press there that just seems to wants to ignore the obvious of the positive successes that florida is experiencing? i think, i think change is tough on people. i think that some people are going to walk into the office and say, look, you can t keep doing business as usual. if you look at our space, we stopped growing like a high growth state or company and stopped growing, so, i knew we had to make change and i ran for governor and been a business person all my life. here is what i think about it. i lived in public housing when i started school. i was able to get an education and get a job. i didn t have great jobs in the beginning and i cleaned telebooths, gas stations, amusement parks. they didn t pay a lot, but good jobs and i kept learning and learning. the key to our state, any state. can you get an education and get a first job and then a ....
Are not really rivals, but how does president obama need to address that? well, i think it s very healthy on the one hand to have people in your inner circle who argue against your assumptions so you re taking all things into consideration. nothing will be as tough as it was for lincoln who the majority of his cabinet feared it might lead to war. and the old story went that six people are against it, one is for it. the one has it because the one is the president. good point. this isn t as bad as that. nick, in your book you often talk about moments, decision moments for presidents. many of them involve military decisions. this is actually the first big one for president obama. is this going to be pivotal in some fashion? or is this president obama in his cool, collected way doing business as usual? well, it is in a sense that the president there s two types of decisions. the long protracted decisions like health care reform, which he handled well in the auto ....