actually went behind a push door, a swivel door, he shot through that door, i m pretty sure, and i m pretty sure he grazed my arm, and it was at that time i kind of made up my mind, because there s no way to lock that door. that if it was going to come down to it, he was going to have to work to kill me. so at the time that he was either reloading or the gun jammed or whatever happened, is when i ran through the swivel door and i hit him with the swivel door, and then the gun was kind of jammed up and it was pushed down, so we were scuffling. and i managed to get him with one hand on the gun, and then i grabbed it from him, and i threw it over the counter top. and thank goodness he did that, the reluctant hero that he is, he went on to say that he was selfish, i was trying to save myself, he wasn t thinking
still in the forefront are the details of travis reinking, who had there ar-15, who quietly walked into this waffle house, four people are dead, four others injured and then took off after being wrestled to the ground by james shaw, not with that ar-15, but possibly with two other weapons. talk to me now about the man hunt, how it goes, how it is under way, with the cooperation of people who have to be vigilant in that community and beyond. absolutely and as we talked about earlier, fred, this is one of the single most dangerous positions that law enforcement can be put in. and that s where you have essentially a moving crisis site. so it s not static, you can t set up around it, you can t put a perimeter around it, you can t let someone barricade themselves in and start negotiations and do it as safely as possible and making sure that no civilians
you said your friends were there behind the reporters and the cameras there, what are their thoughts? what that are they saying to you, what are your conversations with your friends who were there with you at the waffle house? the one friend that was there, he s still shaken up like i am, he s not really talking about it too much. we kind of joked about it earlier, just to kind of get our minds off of it. we re still joking about it. i know it s going to hit home at some point in time. but my other friends, they re just trying to be supportive of me and they re like, dude, you re a hero. don t be hard on yourself, there was nothing you could do to save the other people. and, you know, they re just being supportive and they re being there for me. james shaw jr., i know it s been a very long day, night,
i don t want this to be like the focal point of my life. i know i m going to be seen by a lot of people because of all the different media outlets and stuff, but i don t want this to be a major moment in my life, even though i know it s going to be. but i went to church to get past it, kind of, to try to start it off on the right foot. but it only happened 12 hours ago, if that. . reporter: after all this happened, what do you want to do as you go forward with your life? i m not a hero. i m just a regular person.