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Transcripts for CNN At This Hour With Kate Bolduan 20191211 16:35:00

they had found no evidence to corroborate the allegations in the steele dossier. it s not that clean, folks. they knew and they ignored it. and they continued to surveil him. why? why did they doctor the ema i-e. the people continued getting warrants that wasn t legitimate had a biased thatic road. how this opened, i don t know i know mr. durham has a different view. i respect your view they may have been a lawful predicate, one of the people pushing this was peter strzok from day one. so, ladies and gentlemen, we have a task at hand here, to make sure this never happens again, to hold people accountable. change our laws, save the fisa court if we can and i hope this chapter in american history is never repeated and finally, if you report that this 434-page report says lawful investigation with a few irregularities, you

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Transcripts for CNN At This Hour With Kate Bolduan 20191211 16:34:00

absolutely. is that spying? it s not it s illegal surveillance. it s not court authorized surveillance. whatever legal surveillance means illegal surveillance means, they did it. so all this stuff that they didn t illegally surveil trump s campaign. they did because they had no legal basis after the january 2017 data dump by the russian guy to believe that the dossier was reliable. they amounter exculpatory information in june of 2017 that would have further proven that carter page is not a russian agent and he was actually working with the cia. let me ask you very directly. do you believe carter page is or ever was an agent of the russian government trying to do harm to his country? i m going to refer to the evidence we found here, which is that if i m going to read this. thank you. they, the fbi, and at the end of these fisas, told us that

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Transcripts for CNN At This Hour With Kate Bolduan 20191211 16:18:00

and he s marketing the dossier, which is a bunch of garbage to anybody and everybody. to me that s important. is that important to you? any evidence of bias is supposed to be disclosed to the court and to the department lawyers. okay. so, let s play this out. in january, 2017, when they figure out the primary subsource and they talk to the russian guy that provided steele all the information, what should the fbi have done at that moment? two things. reconsidered internally where things stood and most importantly told the lawyers at the justice department who they were asking to help them get a fisa. and there are five people in that interview, right? correct. okay. are you going to make sure those five people are known to the higher ups? they are all a part of the referral i mentioned earlier. okay. did they have a duty to report to their supervisors and eventually to the court

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Transcripts for CNN At This Hour With Kate Bolduan 20191211 16:16:00

this, unless run a cliff here. this is what comey said in 2018. it would be nice to have sound. do we have sound? never mind, i ll read it. director comey, the reporter is asking him, can i ask you a question on fisa abuse? it s a major issue for republicans. do you have the total confidence in the dossier when you used it to secure a surveillance warrant and also in the substantive renewal, this was asked in december of 2018 about a year ago. comey. i have total confidence that the fisa process was followed, that the entire case was handled in a thoughtful, responsible way, by doj and fbi, i think the nation i think the notion that fisa was abused here is nonsense. would it be fair to say that you

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Transcripts for CNN At This Hour With Kate Bolduan 20191211 16:17:00

take issue with that statement? certainly our findings were that there were significant problems. so when comey speaks about fisa, you shouldn t listen? you should listen to mr. horowitz. he s not indicated and to be concerned about the fisa warrant process is not nonsense. christopher steelee, is it fair to say that he had a political bias against donald trump? he, given who he was paid for, there was a bias that needed to be disclosed to the court. does it seem that he personally had advice, not because he was on the payroll of the democratic party? well, we found in the course of this and heard from mr. orr about his comment to him that he was desperate to prevent mr. trump s election. again, this is the guy that provides the dossier that gives the warrant over the top against carter page. he s paid for by the democratic party and he personally believes it s bad for donald trump to win

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