And her woman of courage award stemmed from her anticorruption efforts in ukraine . Yes. That is true. Was it ever determined who threw the acid and killed her . There have been investigations, but while some of the lowerranking individuals that were involved in this have been arrested, those who ordered this have not yet been apprehended. After you stepped away from this anticorruption event to take this call, what did the director general tell you . She said that there was great concern on the seventh floor of the State Department. Thats where the leadership of the State Department sits. There was great concern. They were worried. She just wanted to give me a heads up about this and things seemed to be going on. So she wanted to give me a heads up. Hard to know how to react to Something Like that, i asked her what was it about, what did she
think it was about. She didnt know. She said that she was going to try and find out more, but she wanted to give me a heads up. In fact, i think
being repeated by the president himself and his son. were you aware whether they received attention on prime time television on fox news as well? yes, i did. now, was the allegation that you were badmouthing president trump true? no. was the allegation that you had created a do not prosecute list to give to the prosecutor general in ukraine true? no. in fact, didn t the corrupt prosecutor general himself later recant those allegations? yes. now, when these articles were first published did the state department issue a response? as you said, there was a series of articles so after the first article, which was an interview with mr. lutsenko and was only really about me and made certain allegations about me, the state department came
referenced in your opening statement including that you had badmouthed the president and had given the prosecutor general a do not prosecute list. there was another that included allegations of ukrainian interference in the 2016 election, and then there was a third that related to allegations concerning burisma and the bidens. is that accurate? yeah, yes. were these articles and allegations then promoted by others associated with the president in the united states? they seemed to be promoted by those around mayor giuliani. i m going to show you a couple of exhibits including a tweet here by president trump himself on march 20th which was the first day that one of these articles was published. it appears to be a quote that
i want to show you another excerpt or two from the transcript or the call record, rather, where the president of the united states says good, because i heard you had a prosecutor who was very good and he was shut down and that s really unfair. a lot of people are talking about that. the way they shut your very good prosecutor down and you had some very bad people involved. he went on later to say i heard the prosecutor was treated very badly and he was a very fair prosecutor. so good luck with everything. now ambassador yovanovitch, after nearly three years in ukraine where you tried to clean up the prosecutor general s office was it the u.s. embassy s view that the former prosecutor general was a very good and a very fair prosecutor? no, it was not. in fact, he was rather corrupt, is that right?
i m not exactly sure. but i took it to mean that the allegations that mayor giuliani and others were putting out there, that that s what it was. and who else was involved in this concerted campaign against you? there were some members of the press and others in mayor giuliani s circle. who from ukraine? in ukraine i think well, mr. lutsenko, the prosecutor general, and mr. shokin, his predecessor certainly. and at this time mr. lutsenko was the lead prosecutor general, is that right? that s correct. had president zelensky indicated whether or not he was going to keep him on after the election? he had indicated he would not be keeping on mr. lutsenko. i believe you testified earlier that mr. lutsenko had a reputation for being corrupt,