finder, but also the person who knows the law. the jurors of the fact finders and they apply the facts to the law in this instance judge jones sitting in his capacity was also determining the credibility of the witnesses. so, he saw mark meadows firsthand that the witness box, but then brad raffensperger during his direct state played those four clips and they were clips directly from that, quote, perfect call that donald trump happened on january 2nd 2021. but, we heard mark meadows saying we. and i want to emphasize this. mark meadows uses the word we all the time. when he was on direct lawyers, he said oh that just my very gracious we have not trying to take credit for something i learned as being a politician. we do this, we do that, but it really didn t mean me, i wasn t included. but then on this call into the clips, you heard mark meadows say, well we would like to make sure we can get our hands on that voter data and we d like to see if we can get this taken care of kind of t
lawyers, he said oh that just my very gracious we have not trying to take credit for something i learned as being a politician. we do this, we do that, but it really didn t mean me, i wasn t included. but then on this call into the clips, you heard mark meadows say, well we would like to make sure we can get our hands on that voter data and we d like to see if we can get this taken care of kind of thing. it does not, it s strange quickly to say that when i m saying,, we if i m mark meadows i m not including myself. i m supporting myself in the trump campaign. he tried to make sure was very clear, he had, quote, no official or unofficial trump campaigns but he really took a flyer trying to convince federal judge that there are no bounce to his role as a chief of staff. he literally said i have no bounds to the roles of chief of staff. katie phang, the moral here is that audio recordings and email records can come back to bite you in the courtroom. thank you so much for joining me. t