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eastern town of soledar near bakhmut. a spokesman said ukrainian forces were fighting what he described as the best prepared units of russian wagner mercenaries. now on bbc news, it s hardtalk. welcome to hardtalk. i m stephen sackur. signing up for military service is a big deal. soldiers put their lives on the line for their country no questions asked. but what if the soldier has questions, doubts, doesn t believe in the mission? should personal morality ever trump the military code? well, my guest today thought so. former us army intelligence analyst chelsea manning was responsible for one of the biggest leaks of classified information in history and spent seven years in prison as a result. is transparency a justification for spilling state secrets? chelsea manning, welcome to hardtalk. good evening. thanks for having me. it s a great pleasure to have you. if i may, i want to begin with the decision that really changed, transformed your life. that is the decision t ....
sunshine will compensate, six to 11 degrees the high but as we go into friday night, here is that wet weather and in areas where we are already seeing those flood warnings out, so across parts of south west england, wales, across the majority of england as that system drifts steadily east and behind it we will see a cost of shop showers continuing through the day. a wet start to saturday however you look at it and the rain eases away, plenty of showers, some wintry through the tops of higher ground in scotland, a breezy afternoon but milder in the south east, i2 scotland, a breezy afternoon but milder in the south east, 12 degrees but noticeably cooler into the far north of scotland. that is worth bearing in mind because once we have saturday out of the way, north westerly wind takes over, look at this, blue tones and yes, those white blobs, any showers could turn wintry so be careful what you wish for because next week will turn colder, some night time frosts around an ....
Were basically having issues looked at, you know, ignored or given a second chance or, you know, put into a slightly different role to sort of shake things up, yeah. right, because you were obviously destined to go to iraq to do data analysis, to work in intel in one form or another. right. you were warned, weren t you, about the dangers of leaking, of exposing information to the outside? you were also warned, i believe, about wikileaks, in particular? so, yeah, it was brought up in my.in my. it was brought up by a contractor, a civilian contractor who was training us. they mentioned it and it was just sort of a thing in passing. i do recall that happening. i didn t really dig into it at that point. it was like 2008, so. right. you didn t dig into it, and yet, within weeks of arriving in iraq, you d reached out to wikileaks and you d clearly made a decision to cross the most fundamental line of all to actually reveal this confidential secret information. ....
A civilian contractor who was training us. they mentioned it and it was just sort of the thing in passing. i do recall that happening. i didn t really dig into it at that point. it was like 2008, so. right, you didn t dig into it, and yet within weeks of arriving in iraq, you d reached out to wikileaks and you d clearly made a decision to cross the most fundamental line of all to actually reveal this confidential secret information. i don t think that comports with the timeline, necessarily. i think that i, i spent, you know, quite a bit of time in myjob and in my role. and obviously i was in various. well, i think by the end of november, you d only arrived there a month or so earlier. by the end of november, you made the initial contact with wikileaks. that doesn t comport with my understanding of the events now. well, it s the timeline that was put into the court and that appears to be established by the computer records. that s not the timeline that i m familiar with. so i recall th ....
Well, they clearly were placed at risk. whether or not retribution was eventually delivered to those people is another matter. but there wasn t. .. there s no list of names to, for us to to go through. we asked for it during our court martial. but the media found these names. i mean, it was quite plain. well, they didn t. it wasn t presented before the court. but even if it wasn t presented before the court and i m not answerable for what the prosecution did or didn t do is it on your conscience that these names, you didn t sift the information? it turns out you did put names into the public domain. and i wonder now, having had many years to reflect on it, whether you regret that? well, no, i. i chose certain categories of information under the understanding of what is and shouldn t, should be in this kind of categories. categories. categories, yes. in a sense, you put an awful lot of trust into wikileaks and julian assange. do you regret that? i would. if they were not available, ....