which democrats, many of them that i talk, to believe they are staring down something close to electoral apocalypse and that obviously complicates what they re trying to do on the hill as an extra layer of complication to it. bret: yeah, you have got senator joe manchin, ben, northbound one, he thinks that there should be ten year policies not three year if you are going to put them. you have to fund them for the full 10 years and not hide the ball in essentially his words. and there s a number of things he is kind of dick taghts that democrats are not going to go along with. he has got the pen. he has got the pen. he can do whatever he wants and so can sinema. they have all the leverage because the progressives know that they can manchin can take this bill or leave it and the progressives want it more than they do. so they have got all the leverage. bret: ben, real quick? i just think that jonathan s analogy is correct there are a lot of cars and moving parts