watch how president biden reacted to that. the members of this community were singled out because of their religious affiliation. now three young children are dead. three educators are dead. you believe that christians were targeted? i have no idea. josh hawley believes they were. what to you say to that? i probably don t then. i m joking. i have no idea. martha: well, laugh about that and saying that if that s what josh hawley thinks, he probably disagrees. we ll get into that with katie pavlich and fox news contributor and geraldo rivera, co-host of the five and fox news correspondent at large. great to have you with us right now. katie, let me start with you. what did you think of that response from the president in that sound bite? well, it came after the president s first response to this horrific situation when he talked about ice cream at the white house during his first remarks about this situation. so i think it shows that he s clearly more interest
figures, which we understand have come from the home office. £6 billion over two years. how do we reach that number? billion over two years. how do we reach that number? sorry, i didn t actually hear reach that number? sorry, i didn t actually hear your reach that number? sorry, i didn t actually hear your question - actually hear your question properly, could you say that again? so, the estimate is that the cost of the illegal migration over the space of two years would come to £6 billion, a figure we understand has been obtained from the home office. why would it cost that much? weill. why would it cost that much? well, the cost is fundamentally why would it cost that much? -ii the cost is fundamentally linked to the cost is fundamentally linked to the need to extend and increase the size of the uk s detention state in order to accommodate the number of people that would potentially have to be looked after. that is the cost of accommodating those people, providing them with
down on them. they don t want us to know. they need our money right now and they don t want to us know the situation there, which is the reason why they detained everybody from the mince group. martha: those people go where? someplace in the chinese detention state. we don t know. martha: one men you re in your office in beijing and the next minute you re being basically pulled away from your desk and taken out. we re seeing similar things that happen to a japanese worker as you said. these are scary times. you know, what is your last thought on that, gorden, before we let people gee? this is the most consequential point in history because we have two very malicious large dangerous actors and the united states, which is normally the backstop for peace and order is now not tensioning like it should. biden doesn t know what s going on. he doesn t want to acknowledge it. things can fall apart fast. martha: a strong final
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