i ve done 150 plus town halls and this has come to this moment. don t complain what happens in a general election if you don t play in this caucus. it matters. reporter: so i can tell you from being at some of nikki haley s town halls is that voters tell me that they were attracted to her as a candidate based on past performances. some people say debates aren t all that important. but from speaking to voters, that sort of proves otherwise. so tonight could be hugely consequential both for the former ambassador and for governor desantis. phil, poppy. and we ll all be watching. thanks so much for your reporting. and the iowa caucuses may be a make or break moment for ron desantis. david axelrod who knows his way around a campaign says in a new piece for desantis iowa is becoming a matter of political survival. he and his aligned super pacs