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Transcripts for CNN Anderson Cooper 360 20240604 04:08:00

That s never been challenged in court, i think is a good chance that would not hold up in the court. also, i think it s unlikely, we don t know whether this case will be tried, before the election and. even if it is, nothing is final until the appeal is over. that will not happen until after the election. and david irvine, you know the former president quite well. his statement on his social media, it paints a picture of how he s going to betray this. obviously. we saw this kind of play out and add that the rules are coming for me, that the pan cain campaign is i m standing between you and, them right? that the justice department has been weaponized, the fbi s been weaponized. one of the points, i think, that makes a tougher here, it is espionage act charge, right? and we don t know if that is one of the well, i don t know if it s one of the seven counts, but based upon the search warrant, the espionage act. when you paint yourself and you are a patriot, and you are the pre ....

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Transcripts for CNN Anderson Cooper 360 20240604 04:03:00

Them from being in the federal govern officials. but of course, obstruction of justice. the question is, what other charges is possible. we know that there are seven charges, and again, the fact is that this has never happened before. and, this is something that the jack smith, the prosecutors in that office have waited for some time before making this decision. everything, including the target matter the former president received only recently, had to go through merrick garland. merrick garland, the attorney general, would have had to review this, and decide whether to allow it to go forward. so, the idea that this indictment, we don t know exactly when it was return, returned if it was returned today. certainly, the former president says he was notified this evening, it tells us that the justice department had certainly gotten to the stage very recently. and that they knew, they had enough evidence, they believe they had enough evidence to bring this to a jury. and, evan, also ju ....

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Transcripts for CNN Anderson Cooper 360 20240604 04:07:00

His life. this is a man who has been sued, deposed, taken to fit, the fifth impeached twice, tried in the senate, investigated by congress. even indicted by the state authorities here in manhattan. but being indicted by the justice department is different. this is a whole different ball game, the doj has way more resources. the conduct here is going to be, i think it s safe to say, more significant than what he was indicted for in manhattan. and the consequences, if he is convicted, are going to be much more severe than what he is looking at in manhattan. what about, there was an espionage charge, as a possibility. yeah that is one of the crimes that was listed, and that relates to mishandling of defense information. not necessarily classified information. i should note, this also, one of the statues that was listed in a church warrant application, destruction and concealment of government documents, says on the face of the law, if a person s can convicted of of of this crime, ques ....

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Transcripts for CNN Anderson Cooper 360 20240604 04:12:00

In dribs and drabs. i want to go to kristen holmes right now. kristen? at least one of them is related to a conspiracy charge. now, we don t know exactly what that means. but this is something that we believe the department of justice was trying to prove. we know they had brought in a number of lower level aides trying to prove this conspiracy theory that there had been a larger obstruction of justice. again, are we very clear? we don t know exactly what this conspiracy charges. all we know so far is that there are seven charges, and that one of, them at least is, relating to conspiracy. and we also know that the department of justice had brought in multiple sources trying to prove this point of conspiracy, trying to these lower level horses, essentially, from these lawyers, that i have talked to, trump lawyers, trying to prove that trump had a obstructed these lower level employees in some ....

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Transcripts for CNN Anderson Cooper 360 20240604 04:55:00

Has to ask you about this as well have criticize you the current legal team is. do you think that the current legal team he has right now is prepared to handle this documents investigation out of florida? when you say that the current legal team, jim trusty, lindsay halogen halligan and i do you think they are capable of handling this. jim and john are both very, experienced attorneys, they both spent a lot of years at doj. so i think that they would be capable of handling this. yes. i want to be clear that when we are talking about these as document retention, s that nobody is being dismissive of the gravity that is involved. when i hear the phrase document retention that you heard panel about this being something relegated to a minor thing. these are current laws on the books involving the presidential records act, involving congressional, legislative initiatives to say, we as a society do not want documents that are classified or of national security interest, or otherwi ....

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