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and in five years you may be interested in running for john mccain s seat in arizona. well, john mccain has hinted he might retire. i doubt he will. but the door is always open, and i think being from arizona and living there my whole life, it s not that people actually like john mccain, it s that he has been the only option for a long time. so see what happened. all right. thanks. up next, author and journalist amy goodman. the most executive producer of international radio program democracy now, talks about war, politics, and grassroots activism. the new york times best selling author has written or cowritten five books, including the exception to the rulers, standing up to the madness, and the silenced majority. host: amy goodman in your first book in the exception to the rulers, you write that amy goodman is the journalist as uninvited guest. guest: we re not supposed to be a part to any party. we are journalists. there s a reason why our profession, jo ....