on the committee respondhes thi way. and we re quoting, i just want o to understand a little more soud your use of the words orchestrated. it sounds to me like at thisen u point when you sent this text, you had turned away in part because of seeing some things that you didn t agree with .like is that right? like when you sent this already on your way from the capitol because of concerns of people taking it in a different direction? oh, is that the leadingtion question ever asked in the the history of a congressional hearing? probably. and the whole interview goes on like this. keep ind, n mindray , ramp s isn the only people caught on camera that day encouraging others to break the law. he s one of the only ones. d. and yet he s never been charged. and a january 6th committee was, on his side. wh wy was the committee and itsr members working so hard to help ray epps now in his interviewe n with the committee rep, said h e
wee shoulquesd be able to , noo anyone in authority want to talk about ray epp s. ramseyk abou, of course, is then who was caught on tape encouraging the crowd outside the capital , both on january 5th and 6th to commit felonies by rushing inside. now, what tes interesting is tha the january 6th committee, under public pressure, did in the end interview ray epps. now, we don t have all ofout th the committee s records about that interview. we shoulat- weshouldd, but we dr buelt some have been releasedthy and what they tell is a remarkable story in the testimony that we have, the committee coaches reps on how to answer questions about his involvemeny eppst. ws quote, i was in the front with a few others. i also orchestra you did it. i helped get people there, end quote. now, epp s admitted that inssag a text message to a relativeto on january 6th, he s admitting crimes he s never been evenes. charged for his crimes.e crim es but what s so fascinatingn is that when those facts came ci u
what s going on here. nor can you know about the veryv obvious clandestine role of federal agencies that encouraged the events of january 6th. that happened. but its details have never been explained. a lot has still not beens no explained from that day, despite a committee that was impaneled for more than a year, for example, you remember the pipe bomber who planted explosives outside antethe democratic nationalplosv committee? well, those explosives, ites itu turns out, were under a bench at the same moment that carmel harris, who had secret service protectionhad secr with her, wht the building, was their . so how did the u.s. secrets. service miss a bomb sitting in plain sight during its security sweep? ecurit we can t answer that bl the fbi still to this dayl to refuses to release all the security footage. why? what s going on here? almost unique among media outlets. revol revolver news asked thatve question. ooks the pipe bomb or even looks
about which is the creation a committee modeled afterin the famous frank church committee of the nineteen seventies. that will look a lot more closelys that at the influe of the fbi and the various intelligence on domestic politics. they re not allowednter to interfere in domestic politics. fere they clearly have been.y and maybe congress could get to the bottom of that fact. the only ones who can. well, kevin mccarthy is going to do that. looks likend his he s going to e speaker. and his plan we have hav justs o learned, is to appoint really ai one of the most honestnt and dogged members of congress will just say it. c thomas massie of kentucky,ongre, to head that committee, the new church committee run by congressman thomas massie, who , by the way, joins us nowon to announce it. congressman, thanks so much for coming on . thanks, tucker. it looksli likke ie i ll probaby be on that committee, but i can t say that i will run itee . i will say that while we ve seen this drama o
right headlong into a wall of secrecy and it drove a lot of them, those members kind ofrazy crazy. are you prepared for. for this honestly awesome task? i think we are, and we ve been laying the groundwork for f that. dan bishop, my colleague from bee north carolina, and jim jordan, we ve been talking to the intel committewhe, which has the authority to to get all of that information by the way, a lot of this is going to playi. out down in the skiff.e you re goinggoing have to trust the people that are put on this committee. and i ll tell you what, ifl yog there s something fishy going on , i ll come out of the skiff and tell you. but a lot of it will be behind closed doors. they ll be classified information. but if we find anything illegal or unconstitutional, we will bring it forward. well, in your specific case, a i believe you. and i amm i m so grateful thatd you re doing this. and i really hope that if you find anything like that, to the extent you can tell about it, you will .