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Ideological polarisation is the price of democratic representation in Indonesia

The future of democracy in Indonesia will hinge upon the country’s ability to strike a balance between consolidating liberal values and strengthening democratic representation, writes Diego Fossati (City University of Hong Kong).

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Transcripts for MSNBC The Sunday Show With Jonathan Capehart 20220116 15:07:00

we as americans cannot allow you know, our democracy is fragile, as you have said. but the only change in democracy that occurs occurs when american people demand it. so we must continue to demand it. you know, congresswoman sewell, in the intro we played what, to my mind, was the pivotal moment in the president s speech where he laid down the marker, you re either with john lewis or you re with bull conor. it was stark language. and a lot of people were not happy with that. i would love to democrats and republicans thought he went too far. in your mind, did the president go too far in laying out that stark language? i don t think he did. i was honored with be with the president and the vice president in atlanta, and i wanted the president to be emphatic. and he was bold, he was clear. he was clear, he said do you want to be on the right side of history? do you want to be on the side of

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Transcripts for MSNBC The Sunday Show With Jonathan Capehart 20220116 15:29:30

Transcripts for MSNBC The Sunday Show With Jonathan Capehart 20220116 15:29:30
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Transcripts for MSNBC The Sunday Show With Jonathan Capehart 20220116 15:11:00

but we first need to have the vote. we need to make people stand up and forever state which side they are on. then we can go to plan b. tomorrow is the push to action on call the vote. you know, to your point, rev, about people need to have their votes recorded, have a listen to our colleague craig melvin and his interview with vice president harris on this point. well, when we have the discussion about who s responsible, i will not absolve the 50 republicans in the united states senate from responsibility for upholding one of the most basic and important tenets of our democracy, which is free and fair elections and access to the ballot for all eligible voters. what about senator manchin? what about senator sinema? i don t think anyone should be absolved from the responsibility of preserving and

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Transcripts for MSNBC The Sunday Show With Jonathan Capehart 20220116 15:31:00

it. and you write throughout the book that the united states is not a democracy anymore, it s an anocracy. what is that? that is just a fancy term for partial democracy. it s a government that s neither fully democratic nor fully autocratic. it s something in between. and the term comes from a data set that the u.s. government uses. in 2017 i was asked by the government to join a task force that they run called the political instability task force. and the job of the task force is to hey help the government predict where political instability is likely to break out. the task force put together a model that included lots of different variables, things that we thought would matter in the outbreak of civil war, poverty, inequality, how ethically diverse a country was.

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