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>> we as americans cannot allow -- you know, our democracy is fragile, as you have said. but the only change in democracy that occurs occurs when american people demand it. so we must continue to demand it. >> you know, congresswoman sewell, in the intro we played what, to my mind, was the pivotal moment in the president's speech where he laid down the marker, you're either with john lewis or you're with bull conor. it was stark language. and a lot of people were not happy with that. i would love to -- democrats and republicans -- thought he went too far. in your mind, did the president go too far in laying out that stark language? >> i don't think he did. i was honored with be with the president and the vice president in atlanta, and i wanted the president to be emphatic. and he was bold, he was clear. he was clear, he said do you want to be on the right side of history? do you want to be on the side of

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