don t be irresponsible, extend the debt ceiling. what do you say to those political folks, veterans who say, you know what, though, the history is the big deficit deals, the deals that get done on these budget fights, the debt ceiling usually is the impetus for negotiation? well, i can tell you we re running a great risk here. we re in economic recovery, creating jobs. if we create a question as to whether or not the full faith and credit of the united states can be counted on, it s going to cost us dearly. i just think playing these doomsday scenarios of shutting down the government, failing to extend the debt ceiling, for a handful of republican leaders that may sound like good politics, but for most responsible leaders in both political parties it s exactly the wrong way to go. it seems to me the most likely scenario in all these hoedowns you guys are having, political showdowns, budget, debt ceiling, sequestration coming up, and i apologize for using that term, but the idea o
the diet analogy, this doesn t stand up on the sequester. we weren t asking president obama to put us on a diet. just saying don t let us gain more weight. this is really simple. he could don t that without propaganda and hysteria. juan: can i give you a touch of reality. andrea: i gave you a touch. quite a touch. juan: the neighbors to the north in new york. my loved ones on the five. but let me say now that i m here, in all the deficit deals made it s $4 in cuts so far for $1 in new revenue. eric: no. juan: that can t be true. eric: you re lying. juan: there we go. now we got it. oh, my gosh. barn subsidy, oil subsidiaries, medicare thing we mentioned. look at the reality of the deal that was made in 2011 with republicans by president obama. eric: president obama
the diet analogy, this doesn t stand up on the sequester. we weren t asking president obama to put us on a diet. just saying don t let us gain more weight. this is really simple. he could don t that without propaganda and hysteria. juan: can i give you a touch of reality. andrea: i gave you a touch. quite a touch. juan: the neighbors to the north in new york. my loved ones on the five. but let me say now that i m here, in all the deficit deals made it s $4 in cuts so far for $1 in new revenue. eric: no. juan: that can t be true. eric: you re lying. juan: there we go. now we got it. oh, my gosh. barn subsidy, oil subsidiaries, medicare thing we mentioned. look at the reality of the deal that was made in 2011 with republicans by president obama. eric: president obama
benefits and think that adds to the deficit. they don t think there are enough spending cuts. they also don t like the extension of the middle class tax cuts that were the president s stimulus package. also some liberals don t like the bill because they feel it gives, takes away their leverage to argue for more taxes in the future in terms of deficit deals and the rest of them would only come by cuts. so what you re going to see is at noon, nancy pelosi is going to talk to the house democratic caucus. there have been some rumors that joe biden could come up here on new year s day to sell the plan, very much like he did to the senate ds earlier this morning. you ll also see john boehner meeting with his conference at 1:00 p.m. i ve been told by folks close to boehner that these it is by no means a done deal. he is keeping the door open to possibly amending the senate bill. now you think with the 9 votes they wouldn t want to do that, they d want to put this to bed. but the house repub
paul ryan to be involved in a negotiation when he has seemed to dig his heels in a fairly ideological way for the last several years? well, it s something that speaker boehner has done to exert his influence over the house republican conference. the idea from my conversations with boehner aides is that look, paul ryan is a very popular figure within the house republican conference. any possible deal or compromise must have his fingerprints on it. but make no mistake, alex, this is not going to be paul ryan as the chief negotiator of this deal. it s still going to be john boehner, john boehner s people, they are battle tested when it comes to these deficit deals and having paul ryan in the room is simply a way for john boehner to try to avoid and watch out avoid any consternation within his conference and watch out for his flank which as we know from 2011 he s had a mighty difficult time getting things through his group of fellow republicans who are not too keen on any