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Transcripts For MSNBC Dateline 20240706

my heart breaks. casinos, charisma, connections. he was mr. big. he was very dark flamboyant. extremely charming. his murder was big to. a car explosion at a posh resort, somebody wanted to make a statement. who would want him dead? or who wouldn t? a string of angry investors, even whispers about the mob. everybody went, oh, this is mob connected. so why would police focus on her, a beautiful socialite, ex-wife number two? she was very intoxicating. i think she was cold and calculating. maybe her former husband was worth more dead than alive. it s easy to blame the rich, beautiful woman. she s the person everyone loves to hate. but she is completely innocent. or maybe it was someone else entirely. he is obsessed with gary triano, obsessed with him. it s a case we investigated for more than five years. now a stunning new end. we are going back up under a rollercoaster. spend a little time in tucson, arizona and here, in the shadows of the majes

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Transcripts For MSNBC Dateline 20240707

everybody went, oh, this is mob connected. so why would police focus on her, a beautiful socialite, ex-wife number two? it was very intoxicating. i think she was cold and calculating. maybe her former husband was worth more dead than alive. it s easy to blame the rich, beautiful woman. the person everyone loves to hate. but she is completely innocent. or maybe it was someone else entirely. he is obsessed with gary triano, obsessed with him. it s a case we investigated for more than five years. now a stunning new in. we are going back up under a rollercoaster. spend a little time in tucson arizona and here, in the shadows of the majestic saguaros you will find a thriving metropolis of 1 million people, with a surprising small town feel. it s the kind of place where everyone seems to know everyone. and if you ask anyone from tucson where they were on november 1st, 1996, they will tell you it was the day of a murder. so dramatic, so horrific they will never f

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Transcripts for MSNBC Dateline 20240604 07:41:00

Those things that fall through the cracks, or because you guys were so focused on pam phillips? that is what the defense would have you believe, that we were focused on pam phillips, i would say there were 8 to 10, what i felt were viable leads in addition to pam phillips? and neil mcneese was not one of them? no. in hindsight, you wish you had dragged neil mcneese through and asked some questions? of course. if you had done, that would you think you would have found? based on the evidence that i have seen, both from our investigation and the defense investigation as we would have cleared him some way, we would not have any level where he would have been a suspect. there was nothing to the mcneese story said investigators and prosecutors. the true killer, they say, was the person sitting in that courtroom. and if there were any doubts, the prosecution had a star witness. who was about to share the secret she had kept for nearly two decades. coming up i just did no

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Transcripts for MSNBC Dateline 20240604 09:41:00

About neil not long about the murder. but did you tell them about a person by the name of neil? yes. did they ask you about and ? a friend of mine, just something he had said. so why didn t the detective at least talked with neil? because it s just one of those things that fall through the cracks, or because you guys were so focused on pam phillips? that is what the defense would have you believe, that we were focused on pam phillips, i would say there were 8 to 10, what i felt were viable leads in addition to pam phillips? and neil mcneese was not one of them? no. in hindsight, you wish you had dragged neil mcneese through and asked some questions? of course. if you had done, that would you think you would have found? based on the evidence that i have seen, both from our investigation and the defense investigation as we would have cleared him some way, we would not have any level where he would have been a suspect. there was nothing to the mcneese s

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Transcripts for MSNBC Dateline 20240604 07:41:00

What i felt were viable leads in addition to pam phillips? and neil was not one of them? no. in hindsight, you wish you had dragged him through and asked some questions? of course. if you had done, that would you think you would have found? based on the evidence that i have seen, both from our investigation and the defense investigation as we would have cleared him some way, we would not have any level where he would have been a suspect. there was nothing to the story said investigators and prosecutors. the true killer, they say, was the person sitting in that courtroom. and if there were any doubts, the prosecution had a star witness. who was about to share the secret she had kept for nearly two decades. coming up i just did not feel safe. a former friend, turns powerful she started talking about how easy it would be to just hire a hitman, and have him taken out because he had such a

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