why not give it a try? good to be with you. i m katy tur. president biden once again today said donald trump is a threat to democracy. calling him a, quote, loser who tried to violate the constitution to stay in power. biden speaking at mother emanuel in charleston, south carolina, said a lot of the same things liz cheney said over the weekend in new hampshire. that donald trump is a want to be authoritarian, don t take that chance. he won t leave office, cheney warned. quote, i think there s a lot of living in a fantasy world that s going on with republicans telling themselves, look, we ll vote for him. it won t be so bad. it may well be the last real vote you ll ever get to cast. it will be that bad, and cheney says, the message is urgent. iowa is just one week away. and if you don t believe the urgency, abc news citing unnamed sources is reporting jack smith has yet another trump aide saying the former president didn t want to leave office. this time, it s dan scavino, t
president certainly and the national security consul be informed of the fact that he has been hospitalized. somebody dropped the ball, and hopefully it won t happen again. it is a huge ball to drop. even kathleen hicks, his deputy didn t know he was in the hospital. can you help us understand what exactly is at risk if the defense secretary is incapacitated and there s a break down of communication. he s a critical part of the chain of command when it comes to national security. he s responsible for defense decisions. he s responsible as part of the team that looks at nuclear issues. if something needs to be done there. so it is extremely important to have a secretary of defense on duty. and, you know, as a former chief of staff, we made clear to cabinet members that if they
time and make the best defense decisions and that can t always be discussed on the air or you would be giving vladimir putin the road map. reporter: well, earlier i spoke with the former ukrainian finance minister, natalie. i asked her what more the u.s. and its allies should be doing. especially since they ve said a no-fly zone over ukraine is a nonstarter. i think we need to do more urgently the things we re talking about and more completely. so when we talk about providing military support, frankly speaking, every day matters. every hour matters. and the nato countries, the united states, need to do this urgently and focus primarily on the air defense. if they re not going on provide a no-fly zone, then provide everything humans possible to allow ukrainians to close the sky. on the sanctions, we need to finish what we started.
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this is really damning because woodward is moving the story beyond where wolf or whipple took it. and let me tell you where it s different, mattis is in this story. in my mind the biggest deal that i ve heard so far is we re hearing not from the secretary of defense because he s in awfully quiet, but people close enough to him that woodward is confident that he has a sense what mattis is thinking. mattis is playing a role i believe in this administration similar to the way melvin laird played in the nixon administration. he is slow walking things, he is calming down the national security state because the president cannot be relied onto make smart national security or defense decisions. so one of the big windows woodward appear tuesday have