this is someone this is a guys that known john mccain for 25 years. he says something that i don t think we will hear again for a very long time before he makes this endorsement. he says both of them are distinguished americans who are patriotic, who are dedicated to the welfare of our country. he is saying that before he makes a public endorsement of one. what was it like for you when you heard those magic words from colin powell and what did it then mean to your campaign calculations? well, lawrence, it was a good sunday morning. so, yeah. just to underscore valerie said we didn t know what he was going to do, barack obama talked to him two or three times if i recall. but he went on meet the press. we like the rest of america were going to learn what his decision was. i think more importantly, why. the timing is critical. and maybe he waited because he knew that. it was after the third debate. 16 dawes out. you re in a presidential campaign.