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but at this point, don, it s a negotiation, and i think the committee will do whatever they can to get that testimony out of cipollone. john, you ve been saying on this program and to anyone who will listen that you think it s critical cipollone testifies publicly like you did. are there legitimate privilege issues that would justify him testifying in a transcribed interview limited to specific topics? or should he appear in a more public manner? i think he s got to appear in a more public manner, and i don t think there s any privileges in that area they re focusing on. we ve already had courts look at the issue. there s no attorney-client privilege for crime or fraud. cipollone i think has a larger problem. he advised the president against doing these things because there were conspiracies involved, several of them. what s to say that he s ever declared he s not part of that conspiracy? if he s remaining silent he is certainly encouraging and enabling that done co ....
are there legitimate privilege issues that would justify him testifying in a transcribed interview limited to specific topics? or should he appear in a more public manner? i think he s got to appear in a more public manner, and i don t think there s any privileges in that public area they re focusing on. we ve already had courts look at the issue. there s no attorney-client privilege for crime or fraud. cipollone i think has a larger problem. he advised the president against doing these things because there were conspiracies involved, several of them. what s to say that he s ever declared he s not part of that conspiracy? if he s remaining silent he is certainly encouraging and enabling that done conspiracy, and he could get dragged in himself. i would think he d want to be up there, don, not only for the sake of democracy but for his own sake. so this is all a little bit mysterious, his behavior. i think i heard you loud and clear but just for clarification just to ....
I are doing everything within our power right now to fight back against this, and yesterday we filed a suit asking for a declaration from a court that that ban is not enforceable in order to restore access to safe and legal abortion. so just ahead of friday s decision you and governor over s called on your state s republican legislature multiple times to repeal this law. they didn t. why not? the governor called a special session. it was held just a few days before the daubs decision came down. and rather than vote to repeal that abortion ban from the mid-1800s which doesn t contain any exception for rape or incest the legislature just gaveled in and gaveled out without hearing about the issues. and they want this draconian 19th century ban to be in effect in wichk. this ban has made women in wisconsin less free, less equal and less safe, and we re not going to stand for that. so the governor and i are committed to fighting back. ....
We filed a suit asking for a declaration from a court that that ban is not enforceable in order to restore access to safe and legal abortion. so just ahead of friday s decision you and governor over s called on your state s republican legislature multiple times to repeal this law. they didn t. why not? the governor called a special session. it was held just a few days before the daubs decision came down. and rather than vote to repeal that abortion ban from the mid-1800s which doesn t contain any exception for rape or incest the legislature just gaveled in and gaveled out without hearing about the issues. ....