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The sheriff s deputies stepped in and physically pushed her aside to allow conrad murray to pass by. once again they were supposed to have begun here at least 15, 20 minutes ago. still have not begun. we don t know what the delay is for. opening statements are for today. a couple of interesting things on the witness list for the defense conrad murray is on the list. we ve been told by our sources, he ll only testify if the defense feels like they are losing the case. on the prosecution side paris the oldest son of michael jackson is on the list. we re told he ll only testify if they feel like they need him and they are losing the case. the case is expected to go on for about five weeks here in los angeles. jon: it will be an ordeal, that s for sure. adam housley now. jenna: an 11th hour deal allowing the feds to pay for disaster aid and prevent a government shut down at least for this month. a live report from capitol hill ....
Up on rick perry, but doing so in a way that was almost cheerful, and he didn t look like an attack dog doing it. so he may have been able to gain a little bit, but i m not sure how much difference these web ads make, if it weren t for the publicity the journalists give them, i m not sure how many would see them but they re part of the deal. jon: you ve seen plenty of these campaigns. can you give us some historical examples of candidates who have come through these sort of bruising primary fights and maybe hurt each other? i m thinking about kennedy-carter. well, absolutely. i mean, kennedy-carter was a wonderful example of that and of course, that was a very bitter campaign in which the challenger, kennedy, showed something bordering on contempt for then-president carter, and of course, he owned heart, did kennedy, of the liberal base of the democratic party and made it a race worth watching, and in the end, of ....
Question is when will the american people decide they ve heard enough of washington crying wolf, jenna. jenna: i think they might have decided that. the bottom line is that we re open for business, but everybody is aggravated. reporter: exactly correct. jenna: i wanted to be sure. i think i mixed up mcconnell and reid s name by the way. i didn t mean to do that. thank you for not correcting me on television. i appreciate it. reporter: you do a great job. jenna: everyone is aggravated, right, that s what we can take away from that. jon: everybody is aggravated. but there is a little bit of compromise going on. jenna: we ll take it. jon: the agreement may have averted a major shut down for now. lawmakers only bought themselves five weeks. as the new super committee looks for place toes cut trillions of dollars. they say look for fights ahead. joining us ab stoddard the associate editor of the hill. you say there is compromise we ve seen in this stopgap spending. ....
Get a big win like that, you could bank a million dollars in donations because of the attention and newfound confidence and enthusiasm that voters across your party would feel, but it happened contemporaneously with rick perry getting in the race and the first couple of weeks after her big win wasn t as great as it should have been. for cain it s a challenge, can he turn it into a real organization that can put money in the bank for him. it only happened a couple of days ago, this saw poll win, so it won t be showing up in this report but it may be. it may show a big spike. certainly it helps. jenna: certainly that s a big if. we ll see if that translates for him. thank you very much, carl. jon: continuing on the political theme, the gloves are coming off in the race for the white house as rick perry and mitt romney take shots at each other in dualing web ads. the perry camp is trying to paint romney as a flipflopper on health care and education reform. romney is blasting back with his ....
Course, there was great suspense at the convention about whether kennedy would even come to the hall in the hands khra ps dollars raised in the air posed that we re seeing from the podiums of convention halls when a nominee has been named. so that s a good example of what can happen, and i don t think obviously, that was 1980. that didn t help carter in his race against conrad ronald reagan, although i continue to think the key fact in that race were conditions in the country that made it very tough and would have made it tough for any incumbent. jon: there s still some dissatisfaction with republicans among the current field as crowded as it might be and sp some speculation that chris christie might yet get into the race, the new jersey governor. what are you hearing in d.c.? reporter: so far, every time this crops up, you hear other people saying he s going to get in, then when someone is speaking for him or he speaks, the answer is no. so i continue to take him at his word t ....