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Detailed text transcripts for TV channel - MSNBC - 20180426:03:08:00

And you know, it s interesting. i m not so sure i agree that mueller is really all that interested in interviewing the if the. of course, with eeve endlessly speculated about that. but typically, when you have an obstruction case, you don t get to interview the target. and you build as a prosecutor that case based on what took place and what resulted from what took place. and here mueller has got all of those facts out. he s got the president, for instance, writing this letter, trying to explain away the june meeting in trump tower. and doing it using facts that it turned it or untrue. he s got the comey firing. i m not really sure that interviewing president adds all that much. and, of course, we re assuming here that the president is the target of an investigation. that may not be true. mueller has already told, we have learned, the president that he s a subject, not a target. the president may never be a target. mueller may have decided that he can t be indicted. ....

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Detailed text transcripts for TV channel - MSNBC - 20180426:03:11:00

Lead in negotiating with mueller. but the raskins could play as important a role in the case escalates. they have both tried and defended clients in criminal cases and in hardball negotiations with prosecutors, skills that trump would need if the mueller case escalates. among their early assignments is to try to use attorney/client protections to try to keep investigators from scouring trump s communications with his personal lawyer michael cohen who s under federal scrutiny, according to a person familiar with the president s legal strategy, who spoke on the condition of anonymity. i love modern-day disclaimers in 2018. julia, what do you make of that. these are two attorneys, again, husband and wife. folklore has it he met them at mar-a-largo who could play a huge role in a case that s already matured. it s closer to ending, we assume, than beginning. i m really glad you re ....

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Detailed text transcripts for TV channel - MSNBC - 20180426:08:08:00

The president. but as we ve seen before, this really could be a game, as phillip pointed out. it could be that giuliani just wants to open this window so that there s some point of slench, but he knows that if the president refuses to talk, mueller may be able to move forward and wrap up the obstruction case without the interview. joyce, in this bill of particulars, there s no surprises, correct? mueller might as well say to rudy, i want to talk to your client about the heart of the case. yeah. and you know, it s interesting. i m not so sure i agree that mueller is really all that interested in interviewing the if the. of course, with eeve endlessly speculated about that. but typically, when you have an obstruction case, you don t get to interview the target. and you build as a prosecutor that case based on what took place and what resulted from what took place. and here mueller has got all of those facts out. he s got the president, for instance, writing this letter, trying to exp ....

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Detailed text transcripts for TV channel - MSNBC - 20180426:08:09:00

Have learned, the president that he s a subject, not a target. the president may never be a target. mueller may have decided that he can t be indicted. and in that case, he can be interviewed just like any other witness, with a grand jury subpoena. of course, if he s a target, subpoenaing him is much more complex and frowned upon by doj policy. phil, we quoted your work on this broadcast last night. the piece you did about the president s utterances, calling it a witch hunt. and yet the tone and tenor and content of what he s saying on twitter sure doesn t sound like ....

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Detailed text transcripts for TV channel - MSNBC - 20180426:08:22:00

Through it. joining me is daniel goldman, former assistant u.s. attorney for the aforementioned southern district of new york. daniel, let s start with taking the fifth before we get to the image of the president on the floor in the residence of the white house going through sealed boxes that say federal evidence. we all learned in civics that it doesn t imply guilt. so what does it mean in this case? well, the sort of bare case that it doesn t mean that much is that following the searches and the revelation that there is an intensive investigation of michael cohen, any defense lawyer who represents michael cohen would say i m not going to have this guy under oath, even if he s innocent, because somebody else thinks he s committing crimes. so anything he says could be used by them ....

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