the president elect tweeeated. having a good relationship with russia is a good thing, not a bad thing. only stupid people or fools would think it s bad. we have enough problems around the world without yet another one. when i am president russia will respect us more than they do now and both countries will perhaps work together to solve some of the many great and pressing problems and issues of the world. new tion from fojames woolsy. here s what he said within the last hour. i would say we want to take actions dealing with russia that are not in the cyber area. one very good one would be to use competition and under cutting opec to lower the price of oil. it would be great for american consumer and it would be a serious problem for putin. he s an able man. and i think we all need to work
we re behind and we have a long way to go to catch up. martha: this is very scary stuff and they trace it back to one building on the outskirts of shanghai, unit 31698. sounds like something from a spy movie. but when you talk about it in those terms, ambassador, going after pipelines, you think about how technical our warfare has become, with drones and all of this, everything, so much computer orchestrated and you say we are behind, we put out a report. let s put up a full screen. last week we talked about this. our defense capability will be surpassed by china terms of the amount of money we spend on it is a better way to say it in 2035. what do we do to catch up in this whole cyber area? well i think the first thing to understand this is not a battlefield that replaces existing potential areas of conflict. this is something new. so, at a time when we re happily cutting our defense budget we should be going in
theories and doctrines to distinguish, you know, along the escalation ladder what s just malicious hacking, what s commercial espionage, what s governmental espionage. what s act of war? what are our appropriate responses? what are our appropriate preventative or preemptive measures. china is well ahead of us in the cyber area. but i think that s just part of a larger challenge that we face in dealing with china over the next several decades. of course china denies this and says it s all just about trying to contain china, that we re raising these red flags that aren t legitimate because we want to be able to have a trade imambulance with them. they are denying all of these. i remember late last year there was a bipartisan call in congress, a commission that looked at two major chinese companies were trying to sell to u.s. companies. two congress members i remember mike rogers was the