money issue, that gets right on that red light the president brought up of, he doesn t think the special counsel will be delving into his businesses. well, the president s views on the red line are wholly irrelevant. he has no power on the mueller investigation except he could fire rod rosenstein, sure. but the idea that he can dictate the terms of the length of the investigation was about exercising bravado and barking with no bite. if they are to be comprehensive, they ve got to figure out if there was an avenue for undue influence. that requires you follow the money trail. it may mean nothing comes of it. this may be a rob bit hole or simply one of crossing t s and dotting i s. you have to believe they re doing what the house intel committee is unwilling to do, we re going to ensure we re thorough, will uncover every stone, we re following all the avenues for potential undue
for this legislation and then vote against the conference report. i i don t see how they could possibly benefit in any way by doing this. so basically, it s just a done deal. it s just, you know, dotting i s and crossing t s. and yet we ve seen a really interesting wave of mobilization just in the last 48 hours that there is some question about the comparing the mobilization against the aca repeal. right. i think it s a little harder to get people amped up about corporate taxes than medicaid cuts. where is your assessment of where the politics are of this? i do disagree a little bit. i think the one place where this might actually hurt is if we can get phone calls going into those house members who now have to reconcile with the senate in enough numbers that we can get them to say i uheard from the people at home and this is what they re thinking. it s unlikely because they re all republicans and they already voted for something similar. however, i think the media largely ignor
sort of an exchange between these two where there was a quid pro quo, and then mueller would really be in formal collusion, in criminal conspiracy territory. i ve heard years from prosecutors like yourself how hard it is to prove bribery. because you almost have to have a tape recording or at least one witness overhearing if you do this, i ll do that. that s a quid pro quo. it can t just be assumed, can it? you have to show a conversation somewhere where some guy or woman said hey, here is the deal you. help us out on ukraine, we re going play ball with you on this other stuff. right. you can t assume it you. do have to prove it. this why we re seeing mueller engage in this methodical he is moving as quick as possible, but he is also dotting i s and crossing t s. they will get if in fact there was a bribe or a quid pro quo, there will be a lot of circumstantial evidence along the way. they ll reach the point where that evidence, maybe one piece of it alone wouldn t hold firm. but
potentially narrow window for the opponents to still to try to stop it. bruce bartlett, former deputy assistant secretary for policy under george w. bush, and author of the truth of the matter. jess macintosh, senior adviser to the hillary clinton presidential campaign there is a little bit of drama today as the house voted to send this thing to conference, and a little bit of balking by the house freedom caucus because they re ticked off the cr resolution, yada, yada. is there any chance to stop this thing? well, theoretically, yes. but in practice, no. it s it would be ridiculous for a member of congress to vote for this legislation and then vote against the conference report. i i don t see how they could possibly benefit in any way by doing this. so basically, it s just a done deal. it s just, you know, dotting i s and crossing t s.
boarder security? do we know what they are massaging as far as language is concerning right now. all of the language is dotting i s, crossing t s. what we do know is that senate judiciary committee, pat lachey, there will be more a week from today and the mark-up legislation would be may 6. so incremental progress, the senate moves slower than other bodies but that s what we have right new. it is interesting, mark. several cities will see a similar site. maybe not as many people but passionate voices who want immigration reform. what was it like seven years ago or longer that we saw rallies with immigration reform. we talked about the pressure from groups when it comes to gun