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Analysis and discussion of the days top stories and compelling issues from Lawrence ODonnell. Things that are not truthful for donald trump. We dont have a lot of on the record lies or falsehoods if you want to use that word, from Michael Cohen. The only one that i can think of is that he told chris cuomo that he Wasnt Recording Him when he actually was. So in the Credibility Fight, ruth, who do you think is going to have the upper hand . Well, in the Credibility Fight you have to ask a few questions. One is who has the greater motive to lie here . One of the things weve learned, say, from Robert Mueller is if you go to him or his investigators with a false story and lie to them, you are going to get ....
Something that s been done to influence an election has been grossly distorted. if it comes to it you ll see the president argue this wasn t a crime. he pleaded guilty because they nailed him to the wall but it wasn t a crime. the president could make that argument but instead he is calling michael cohen a liar. setting up the credibility fight with michael cohen may not go over so well. michael cohen admits in court under oath he committed these crimes. prosecutors believe him. michael cohen is going to jail for three years. it is difficult to say he is lying just to embarrass me at this point. i also think michael cohen s interview this morning was interesting because he acknowledged he is still willing and open to cooperate with not just the special counsel but also the southern district of new york, new york attorney s office and other bill: makes you wonder what he knows. the question has been asked what is he hiding about himself? ....
And i talked to folks yesterday who depict this sort of chaotic time at the justice department. there is deep, deep mistrust on both sides. andy mccabe is pressuring rosenstein all the time to recuse himself from the russia investigation because he thinks he has a conflict given his role in the firing of james comey. he s pressuring him all the time. meanwhile rod is pressing back on mccabe and is trying to get him kicked off the russia time. there s all this mistrust at the same time as these conversations are taking place, but the bottom line is mccabe documented them in notes and another person documented them as well, lisa page. you have two people who have said in the room, this is what happened. and so now it s a credibility fight between mccain and rosenstein. both of which the president has had quite a bit to say about, none of which is positive. we ve heard a lot about the ....
Actually was. so in the credibility fight, ruth, who do you think is going to have the upper hand? well, in the credibility fight you have to ask a few questions. one is who has the greater motive to lie here? one of the things we ve learned, say, from robert mueller is if you go to him or his investigators with a false story and lie to them, you are going to get in a lot of trouble. so if michael cohen is not telling the truth here because he is looking for a deal from robert mueller and he peddles an untrue story, he s going to get himself into a heap of trouble. on the other hand, president trump has some motive here to lie because it would be a very big deal, in fact, if, a, he knew about this meeting and if he had been lying to the american people about it all along. the second thing, and dan can speak to this, is if you ve got a witness who or somebody who may have some credibility ....