with what we re doing. many of those people, maybe even most of those people, that really have not been and will not be getting their money in at this moment. those people, in many cases, are the biggest fan of what we re doing. there s absolutely no evidence to back that up. no. and, in fact, it contradicts what the president said a day or two ago when he seemed to suggest that most of the people who are federal workers are democrats. yeah. well, i actually lived through a couple shutdowns in the clinton administration, and pretty much everybody that i knew, every person, whether they were a political appointee or a career person, was living paycheck to paycheck. people who own homes were terrified that the bank was going to go to pull the money and the money wasn t going to be there. that s the way most government workers are living. they aren t living large, i think the way a lot of people think they are. and so he also said today something about the landlords should go easy
where they can see through the wall because no one is throwing anything over-the-top at them. this is what dhs wanted. it is also half of the cost so we can build twice as much of it. this is a huge win for border security. reporter: the president as you know treated at this morning that looking ahead to fiscal year 18, a shutdown may be just the thing needed to clean up this budget mess. do you agree on that and can expand on that? speak i ve been through a couple shutdowns. let me answer that question this way. that is a good discussion to have in september. i think the president is frustrated with the fact that he negotiated in good faith with the democrats and they went out to try to spike the football and make him look bad. i get that frustration because i think it is a terrible posture for the democrats to take. if we are sitting here trying to prove to people that washington is going to be different, we re going to change things in figure a way to work with them and they do t