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If god himself didn t compel obedience, then no man or government should try. i think the other thing that comes up a lot with jefferson is he s caricatured as a hopeless hypocrite. the author of declaration of independence is a slave owner, we can t learn from him. he was not a conventional christian. he must be a atheist. we can t deal with him. one of the reasons we re talking about him here is that he embodied the best and the worst and all the multiple variations of the american experience all in one remarkable frame, in one remarkable life so long ago that it feels very modern. thomas jefferson is the one founder i can imagine having a drink with. you know, i really can t imagine hanging out with george washington, and i m as boring of a white guy you can get. oh, stop it. ....

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