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Perjury charges if necessary against any of the witnesses. but also to see the evidence that they contain and help flesh out the picture for the special counsel. if you ve been following, you knew that was coming. the new house intel chair adam schiff would not say if he had any concerns about any particular witnesses lying. but eric swalwell pointed the finger directly at long-time trump associate roger stone. i think roger stone lied to our committee and he had to send a number of letters amending his testimony. there are others like him. we just want to get those transcripts to bob mueller as soon as possible. roger stone, though, has maintained he told the truth to congress, but there are signs mueller is planning more charges, extending the grand jury for another six months. well, he s clearly not done. there is more work for the grand jury. clearly, there are other potential charges that he must be considering. there is no purpose for a grand jury i think otherwise. all ....
Patrol. congress doesn t agree. congress has power of the purse. it is impossible for me to believe that an order by mr. trump to the pentagon would be legally enforceable in the court system, it would divert in theory billions of dollars appropriated by congress for military training and maintenance and deployment activities and divert it to a different function. normally when you reprogram any dollars in the federal government, you have to go back to the house appropriations committee and request permission. there s no way that would happen. so i think this is mostly a political gesture. so if the president were declare a national emergency here, from what i understand, you think there could be resignations at a high level? well, i m not sure where that came from. i would doubt it. look, i think the way a normal government works and this one isn t normal, when the white ....
Bring this down, not the wall, not even a compromise. the compromise is already there for any fool to pick up and do. all right, mark thompson, nick confessore and congresswoman eleanor holmes norton, thank you all. ahead, reporting that blows up statements by trump administration officials about terrorists crossing the southern border. it comes after this. they re not coming across the southern border, sarah. they re coming and they re being stopped at airports. also, a federal judge with a blunt warning. cut the attacks on bob mueller. and how the youngest woman ever elected to congress is rattling the gop with her progressive push. and at the golden globes, christian bale thanks satan for inspiring his role as dick cheney. and there is reaction from some you might not expect. you re watching the beat on msnbc. msnbc. at leaf blowers. [beep] ....
With me former u.s. attorney joyce vance and former federal prosecutor john flannery. joyce, i m going to start with you on this one. could the house democrats really do a lot more to help mueller, or is this really about messaging here from them? no, i think that there is substance behind this. we ve already seen that it s possible to indict folks for lying to a committee, whether it s in the house or the senate. and roger stone looks like someone mueller has been carefully examining. there are other people who as additional house subcommittees go through testimony that was taken in front of them, for instance, the standing select committee on intelligence, they may provide mueller with additional people to take a hard look at for perjury charges. so let s look at that, john. we know michael cohen has been charged with perjury. exactly. for lying to congress. so do we expect mueller to go after others here? well, i think so. and one of the things that we learned december 7th ....
We ve seen u.s. armed forces committed to urban riots, seen them ordered to deliver the mail, to support hurricane disasters. so the president has pretty broad powers. and congress intermittently tries to con strain him, to define them, to clarify them. it doesn t work. you want the president to have those kinds of emergency authority. problem is you need a president that seeks counsel, consults congress and has a sense of integrity. if you don t, you end up with impulsive, bizarre orders. i think the congressman you interviewed had it right. this would be an incredibly bad policy decision. i think it would be immediately blocked. again, it is not going to happen, but it is a political stunt right now in my view. general, thank you so much. good to see you. ....