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Russia, but before that in all the conversations that we had with him he didn t make the case that we were, quote, encircling him. but by 2008 the bucharest declaration nato basically says we have an open door to georgia and to ukraine. your ambassador to moscow at the time bill burns who is now the secretary of the cia wrote a series of cables which thanks to leaks we have he said and they were addressed to you said this is a terrible mistake for any russian government putting ukraine into nato is a neurologic issue, i ve talked to liberals, i ve talked to conser conservatives, they will never apply this. by then was it clear to you that well, you know, i have the highest regard for bill burns, but it wasn t a surprise to me that this was the way that the russians felt, but as you know, ....
Decision to pull out of syria so the next secretary of defense will have to answer questions about how do you work with a president where your views and his views diverge from conser conservatives in congress. melanie, what do you think when it comes to this confirmation process? i think jamil is exactly right. it will be difficult because republicans and democrats alike will be looking for someone who is willing to challenge the preside president. so they ll face whoever this nominee is, a lot of questions about how to handle certain situations, including the decision to pull out of syria and afghanistan and that will be a difficult position for someone just nominated by the president, wants to look like they re standing up for and being on his side but at the same time willing to challenge him. that s a difficult thing. and there s the question of who would be willing to accept the nomination which is a whole different question. and doubling down on something you said about the ....
Walk that statement back. and afterwards, a few weeks later i spoke with senator manchin who was in that meeting. he said i was there, i was in this conversation with donald trump. i still believe he was sincere. and i think maybe that s what we re seeing here as well. donald trump says one thing, the white house, he s surrounded by conser conservatives, by republican aides in this white house. maybe they decided that s not the smart politics right now. i think the whole issue of immigration for donald trump has been framed as a law and order issue and it s quite frankly much more than that. it s an economic issue. it not only for people personally and for the private sector, you know, with companies who need these undocumented immigrants to work for them, particularly when you look at the farming industry and what have you, but it also has a really big effect on public resources such as health care, you know, at the county level. that s why i do think that he does need to try to get ....