national emergency and other funds after declaring national emergency. the whole pot is well above $5.7 billion. chris: there are leaders including mitch mcconnell saying don t declare a national emergency. there will be a resolution of disapproval. a lot of republicans will break with you. is the national emergency still on the table or has he been persuaded by his fellow republicans, let s not go that way? it still on the table and it s not the - - a precedent. it s the law. this is not a case of the president just not getting what he wants and going off and declaring a national emergency. there are certain things every president must do to trigger
negotiation hits bumps in the road. as long as we stay focused in a bipartisan way to get this done, i m hopeful we can get it done. is it a done deal? no, it isn t. and we can end up in a train wreck but i don t think anyone has appetite for a government shutdown and i think everyone wants to make sure our borders are secure . chris: can you give percentage? i m a farmer. i say 50-50 we get a deal. hope and pray we will. so the glass is half-full. chris: [laughter] depend how you look at that . i want to ask one more question gentlemen. while there is no question that illegal immigration is a real problem. there are charges, particularly from democrats that president trump is exaggerating it. the president goes to el paso tomorrow for a big rally. here s what he said about the
the rights he has to move money around. there are republicans that don t want to do. face it, the president doesn t really want to do it. that s why we went through the shutdown and has led congress to what they ve done. he would prefer legislation because it s the right way to go in the proper way to spend money. but if that doesn t happen, the president perceives his number one priority is national security. he will then look at the national emergencies act as a way to do his job. chris: in his day of the union address, the president warned of the dangers of illegal immigration. tolerance for illegal immigration is not compassionate, it is actually very cool. [applause] - - cruel. chris: but the washington post the trump golf club has employed a steady stream of illegal immigrants for years and that the managers at the club knew they were illegal. how do you explain this apparent hypocrisy by president trump and by his business?
which raises the possibility more won t show up for court hearings. its negotiation. quotations seldom go smooth all the way through. it s give-and-take and compromise. it s the way government is supposed to work. we ve got good people on this conference committee. german shelby, john holden, durban, i can go down the list. the bottom line is we ve got people who aren t bomb throwers. people who know how to work together to get a deal. i m not positive we will get a deal but with this group of people, i think we will get a deal that deals with detention beds, barriers, technologies and the challenges we have on the southern border in a commonsense way. chairman shelby is correct. time is of the essence and we need to move forward and keep
couldn t agree to. but that option is open to the president and will remain so. chris: the president tweeted, we will build the wall one way or the other. as you pointed out, mike pence has also said that over the weekend what does that mean? let s say you get $2 billion from the congress and you agree to that. can he repurpose money that congress has appropriated for other purposes and spend that on the wall or does he have to declare a national emergency? the answer is yes and no. there are funds available to him through reprogramming. there is money he can get at and is legally allowed to spend. it needs to be said, all of this will be legal. there are statutes on the books as far as how any president can do the. chris: can he do that without declaring a national emergency? there are certain funds he can get to without declaring a