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Is acting, if he seems that disconnected from the people around him, that distant from his advisers, what s to stop him if you are in the baltics tonight, you re very scared. you don t know whether putin is going to stop because anything seems to be on the table for him. what is the sense of the refugee crisis and what more can be done by ukraine s neighbors? obviously at this point, they seem to be coming out of western ukraine into poland, but they will, many of them, need new, permanent homes. their kids will need to go to new schools. they will need new jobs. tell me what that looks like for the whole of europe. well i guess initially they all hope they ll be able to go back right, again? they ll hope this is not a long running refugee crisis where these people have to be resettled permanently, but they ll have a free ukraine to return to. ....
President obama, robert gibbs is here. eugene, what do you expect to hear tonight? we re going to hear the president first and foremost talk about ukraine. that is not just something on the minds of those of us at msnbc and working in politics. it s on the minds of the american people as they watch this invasion at home. i think more importantly, the cohesion, going against russia. the kind of support ukraine is getting. i think he s going to take credit for doing that. one of the things that the white house has you know, always talking about is how much does a president say about how they re going to take credit for a lot of these things, but a lot of this is because of president biden. yesterday, jen psaki, the beginning of her press briefing, she outlined these things. that s number one. you re also going to see him focus on the economy. ....
Know if any of that is on the table, and pete, i want to know what that war without our fingerprints on it would look like. much, much more from jeremy and pete and helene on the other side and much more on the crisis in ukraine as hundreds of thousands of ukrainian refugees flee their homeland for safety. and later in the program, we re just under four hours until president joe biden s very first state of the union address is coming at a time of high tension here at home and abroad. we ll get a chance to speak to dnc chairman jamie harrison about the president s message to the american people later tonight. ident s message to the american people later tonight. ....
Going to be watching, they re going to be getting a drink. jaime harrison, thank you for spending time with us tonight. joining our conversation, former obama campaign manager, david plouffe and eddie glaude is back from princeton university. eddie, i have to start with you and this moment. you know, actually, all three of us have these conversations day in and day out about whether people understand the stakes that our democracy was attacked and the reason we cover liz cheney on the committee is because there aren t very many republicans willing to say what she says, which is that it is the trump movement that threatens democracy here at home. we now have a war in ukraine that is being waged by someone who the entire republican party fell in line behind for five years. they made pilgrimages to moscow. and what the ex-president did, something for which he was not convicted by the u.s. senate for doing, was to lord over them ....
People who are uploading videos of what they re seeing, what they re doing, put out information and you have private parties who are monitoring and publishing open russian radio communications. you have hacker, private nonstate hacker groups who are allegedly doing things like breaking in and releasing the information of russian servicemen who are in ukraine so you have all this tremendous proliferation of nonstate actors who are engaging in the open source environment, and you know, bringing to bear, really, in many ways, something we haven t seen in a major conflict before. so, i think we re not going to see the end of this any time soon. i agree with you, and i think we need to be positioning ourselves for the long haul, meaning, months, potentially, and moving forward in a way that manages to, you know, resolve this conflict in favor of ukraine but certainly doesn t allow it to escalate. president zelenskyy s speech today was like the real world manifestation of president joe bid ....