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Im not sure i could pinpoint a moment, ryan. I mean, as far as i was concerned, it came as somewhat of a surprise that it happened so quickly. We did know that things were moving in that direction. A lot of east germans were going to hungary and then hungary was letting them go through to austria. So the wall had in effect been circumvented, not breached, perhaps. It looks like things were going in that direction. Of course gorbachev had gone to berlin in early october and said the policy for policy for east germany is set in berlin and not in moscow. Which was a pretty clear signal that they were willing to cut him loose, that they were not going to use their army to maintain the empire in force in central and Eastern Europe, particularly respect to the gdr. So i think those events at least led me to think that it was very possible that it was coming but we didnt as far as i was concerned have any concrete sense that it would hap ....