are extremely disturbing. do you think that she is just way off in left field here? i think she is wrong. i wish she looked into it more carefully. this raise as larger issue where it s up to the president to come forward and defend it i m out here, mike rogers, a number of us are defending a program. this is the president s program. the president of the united states much more aggressive in defending and should be out there. that s why a the love these distortions people like rand paul are able to talk about are able to take hold. the president has been relatively silent. i think he has spoken twice on the nsa. once 10 days ago. he should be out there addressing the nation on this going into detail. if there have to be reforms, fine, let s address them. in an intelligent way. i fully agree with his tone and attitude. and i think that s an area we can discuss. what bothers me, john, is the people snooping and spying and lacking corrupt operation going on here. if there are are mistak