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Joining me now is msnbc analyst steve schmidt. he is the former senior adviser to the mccain/palin campaign, and a senior strategist in the bush/cheney 04 campaign. and msnbc political analyst and future msnbc host, alex wagner. thank you both for joining me tonight. steve, you ve seen a lot of these debates. i there s never been a moment in my lifetime, in the history of televised presidential debates, as what we just saw happen with rick perry. he s got these three agencies of government he absolutely wants to close down when he becomes president. just can t remember that third one. yeah. i think it s over for him. i think his campaign effectively ended tonight. just an extraordinary moment, the likes of which we have never seen before in a presidential debate. he had fallen off the radar screen. he s fallen to michele bachmann levels in the race, but i think it s over tonight with that. ....
That is completely transparent and completely honest. and whether, you know, it is a former governor of impeccable credentials like tom ridge, you know, some democratic counterparts, but people of impeccable integrity need to cam forward, i think, be called forward, to evaluate this and to report on it with total transparency and get all the facts out there, after a thorough investigation. steve schmidt, thank you again for joining me. we ll be back with more, with michael moore. we ll get to talking about the debate. and later, my interview with jack abramoff. [ female announcer ] from the moment we arrive. ....
Back to work. but it was one of those debates where i ve enjoyed watching all these republican party debates, and it just, you know, tonight we learned from michele bachmann that $10 for people who didn t know what $10 was, it s two happy meals. huntsman, who was really like the only sane person there, you know. it s like he s the it s like he s taken defiantly sane, jon huntsman. it s like he s taken the other seven out on a field trip. like they don t know they re at a debate. like he s the doctor and he s brought them around. but he said something and perry, over what he did there, where he was trying to remember the third department that he would get rid of. i thought the next question to him actually was going to be, name the three meals you ve had today. and he s going, breakfast, lunch and they were trying to help him out. they were shouting out departments. epa! close the epa! close this, close that! and to john harwood s credit ....
That man into a debate with joe biden. joining me now is msnbc analyst steve schmidt. he is the former senior adviser to the mccain/palin campaign, and a senior strategist in the bush/cheney 04 campaign. and msnbc political analyst and future msnbc host, alex wagner. thank you both for joining me tonight. steve, you ve seen a lot of these debates. i there s never been a moment in my lifetime, in the history of televised presidential debates, as what we just saw happen with rick perry. he s got these three agencies of government he absolutely wants to close down when he becomes president. just can t remember that third one. yeah. i think it s over for him. i think his campaign effectively ended tonight. just an extraordinary moment, the likes of which we have never seen before in a presidential debate. he had fallen off the radar screen. he s fallen to michele bachmann levels in the race, but i think it s over tonight with that. ....
it was one of those white-knuckled moments where you could almost hear him saying, line, line. it was painful to watch. but once you have the pity of the american public, you ve also lost their vote. and steve, this is one of those debates everybody was watching just to see, how is herman cain going to handle it? and also, not just how is he going to handle it, but how is it going to come up? it wasn t clear to me in a cnbc economics debate, how you could bring this up. but let s see exactly how it did come up in the debate. here we re focusing on character and on judgment. you ve been a ceo. yes. you know that shareholders are reluctant to hire a ceo where there are character issues. why should the american people hire a president if they feel there are character issues? the american people deserve better than someone being tried in the court of public opinion based on unfounded accusations. that s what that s about. and i value my character and my ....