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But its obviously hard to know for the individual case. But thank you all for listening, we truly appreciate it. Ladies and gentlemen, please take all your personal items [inaudible conversations] next up from the Rancho Mirage writers festival in california is a conversation between dave barry and carl hiaasen on life and politics in florida. [applause] what was your name again . [laughter] its hiaasing en. Carl harrison couldnt be here, but im in his place. Carl would be famous if he had a normal spelling. [laughter] anyway, first of all, thank you recall for coming. Thanks to jamie for putting on this incredible writers fest. [applause] and what we thought we would do in the few minutes we have left [laughter] is, were both going to just briefly talk about our newspaper careers. First, though, we have to thank the festival for fitting a million and a half people into this room. [laughter] it is really an incredible crowd. Thats the National Park service estimate. The National Park s

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