Debra Gutierrez said another daughter told her a man in a “magic hat” had taken 4-year-old Jessica Gutierrez. A man is on trial in Jessica’s kidnapping and murder.
dr. eric emory was with us when these remains were found. and he participated with the excavation. but the removal of the human remains actually continued here on site at the mariners museum and all the remains were sent back to hawaii to the jpac facility. this is one of their technicians. these are the two monitor sailors. jpac has produced a report which is in draft format. it cannot be distributed yet because it is considered an active case. but the work they have done has been extraordinary. but it also they also face some pretty extraordinary challenges, the least of which is 150 years separating living descendants, if they even exist, from these two men. what they ve determined is that the first individual that was found, monitor 1, was a white individual, caucasian between the ages of 17 and 24. and he had a height estimated to be about 5 7 . the second individual was also caucasian, aged 30 to 40, and had a mean height of 5 6 1/2 with some variations. and the r
in leg length from one individual to another. but they were able to give us some basic parameters. and what noaa has done working with the navy is begun to do the genealogy work and trying to figure out how we go back and find these men. of the 16 men who were lost the night the monitor sank, three of them were african-americans. and we know that, again, as we said, that these two men were caucasian. four of them were officers. and these two men were found associated with enlisted clothing. but that does not mean that they necessarily were enlisted. it s entirely possible that they were wet, they were cold, they put on the only clothing they could to keep warm, and that may have been enlisted clothing. we go under the assumption for now that they were enlisted but we cannot be certain of that. and we ve tried very carefully and when i introduce my partner here, lisa stansbury, we can address certain things with certainty that are scientist fickly based and others that we
figure out how we go back and find these men. of the 16 men lost the night the monitor sank, three of them were african-americans. and we know that, again, as we said, that these two men were caucasian. four of them were officers. and these two men were found associated with enlisted clothing. but that does not mean that they necessarily were enlisted. it s entirely possible that they were wet, they were cold, they put on the only clothing they could to keep warm, and that may have been enlisted clothing. we go under the assumption for now that they are enlisted but we cannot be certain of that. and we ve tried very carefully and when i introduce my partner here, lisa stansberry, we can address certain things with certainty that are scientist fickly based and others that we can make assumptions. but when it comes to a dramatic event like the sinking of a ship, many times all bets are off. there s been much discussion about good order and discipline and who have been the l
of the 16 men lost the night the monitor sank, three of them were african-americans. these two men were caucasian. four of them were officers. and these two men were found associated with enlisted clothing. but that does not mean that they necessarily were ete it s entirely possible that they were wet, they were cold. they put on the only clothing they could to keep warm. that may have been enlisted clothing. we go under the assumption for now that they are enlisted but we can t be certain of that. and we ve tried very carefully we can address certain things with certainty that are scientifically based and others that we can make assumptions. but when it comes to a drama event like the sinking of a ship, many times, all bets are off. there s been much discussion about good order in discipline and who have been the last one off and who would have been the first one off. it s kind of wide open as to who some of these guys may have been. but what we ve done is working with jpa