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Transcripts for MSNBC Dateline 20240604 09:46:00

We did not. i don t know where he has come up with this. the first time she heard about a murder conspiracy was after she told chuck she wanted to divorce him, in 2012. i didn t know about it until much later on when this wild concocted story of having murdered my husband was told for the first time. it was told by chuck has more sick. did you kill your husband? no sir, i did not. i did not kill bob mcclancy i had nothing to do with killing bob mcclancy. i cannot tell you anything more than what i know that he died of a drug overdose. and that was martha ann s story, every ward of it was true, she swore. if martha ann believes her husband was murdered, she would stay it wished chuck kaczmarczyk. he was there with bob mcclancy when he died. he was the one who took photographs of mr. mcclancy, ....

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Transcripts for MSNBC Dateline 20240604 08:18:00

when martha and was at work, chuck kept an eye on bob. chuck was right there. bob wasn t a downward spiral. martha and complained that bob was abusing his anti depressants, and martha anne and chuck found themself managing one painful scare after another. in one episode, they rushed bob to the va hospital more than three hours away passed out of the in the car. out of it. i understand they had to stop the car to do cpr on him. bob was stabilized, after he was deemed well enough, sent home. two days later, on the monday in may, martha and got up early and went to work as usual. she had arranged for chuck to check in on bob that afternoon. it was he who found bob, call 9-1-1. w arrived later to find police cars and ambulances and a frantic martha ann. so, the two of us just sat there and hugged each other and, bold, and just cried our eyes out. ....

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Transcripts for MSNBC Dateline 20240604 08:24:00

Flood of sorrow and guilt that he hadn t been there for his stepdad bob, as bob had been there for him. bob took care of me, every day. it will milk you feel close to a person? it did. then he tried, in vain, to ease martha anne s grief. i will talk about fun things we did with bob. that wouldn t happen anymore. then i would start balling, then she would start falling with me. to make it even worse, bob s best friend chuck had been taking away by sheriff s deputies. debbie watched as martha anne trying to deal with her own sorrow as she planned her husband s funeral, anxious at the same time for her friend, that the small town cops had the wrong idea about chuck. ....

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Transcripts for MSNBC Dateline 20240604 08:42:30

A son uncovers a dark family conspiracy when he questions his mother following a man s apparent suicide. ....

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Transcripts for MSNBC Dateline 20240604 08:35:00

so we are on this cruise ship and every bit of it they are dressed matching. now, at mealtimes, when the waiter took orders, chuck spoke for martha ann. chuck would speak up and say, the lady will have and then he would order for her. when guests around the table rolled their eyes, said debbie, martha ann went stiff. and she said my mother taught etiquette. and a waiter would never have the nerve to speak to a lady. oh, my goodness. we were all just speechless, we were like, hello? do you know what century we are living in? we are allowed to order for ourselves. i was just absolutely floored that you would make a statement like that. a waiter would never have the nerve to speak to a lady. wow. and i thought, never one that is not chuck. but he would know what s right ....

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