is hard. this happened in a foreign country that s in a chaotic place, we weren t really sure who really got it done. i think they are working very hard. of course, this administration, the intelligence community, defense department, are work hard to bring justice. why would there be any action taken other than that, other than wanting to go get the bad guys? we ve been doing a pretty good job. i want to give credit to the bush administration and the obama administration. one of the reasons there is so much news around these things is there haven t been that many terrorist attacks since 9-11. our guys for the most part have done a pretty good job and certainly we have to learn from the mistake that remain in both cases and continue to improve. megyn: unfortunately there has been several attempts. the christmas day bomber over detroit, the times square bomber here in new york. they were within inches of accomplishing what they wanted to accomplish. but their bombs failed. it wasn t li
you don t have access anymore. we are going to have to work this out. it creates a huge problem, but gun if you are going to assert this as national policy you can bring terrorists anywhere in the world and mirandize here in the country and going through an article 3 court, this is problem that it presents. megyn: eric holder said years ago, after we mirandized the christmas day bomber, we need to go back to congress and expand that sub safety exception and give law enforcement the tools they need. he got pushed back from the left and it never happened. i wanted to switch gears with you. there is a report that not only was the older brother placed on a terrorist watch list pursuant to the c.i.a. s request back in 2011 but the mother was also placed on a terrorist watch list then. can you confirm that? first of all, the terrorist watch list is a higher standard. he was never placed on that
available to us to make us safe. we shouldn t have relied on the public safety exception. there is examples of radical islamic motivations here. we should have looked at this as a potential enemy combatant cantd situation and gathered intelligence from this young man that could not be used in the criminal trial. that would be i know that the f.b.i. agent and the counter terrorism experts 6 to be incredibly frustrated that they couldn t continue to interrogate this suspect. this was a big mistake. the underwear bomber, christmas day bomber, osama bin laden s son-in-law was put into the criminal system. we have a right to do it under the legal system but we don t use it in this administration. i know the f.b.i. has to be very frustrated.
shoe bomber in december of 2001, richard reid. and then you had planning to attack subways back in september of 09. you have the christmas day bomber, so-called, tries to blow up a flight but he wasn t able to light the bomb. then you have a successful plot by shahzad in times square except the bomb doesn t go off. obviously it was not successful. we know from authorities in new york they helped to foil 16 plots against this city. the face of it terror has changed in some ways and this attack in boston represents that. well, i think what we said for years we knew as we elevated our security at the airports and the obvious major high consequence targets, there would be a move towards what we call softer targets, targets that are harder to protect, maybe fewer people but where you can still kill and maim a lot of people.
criticizes. he talks about the christmas day bomber, saying obama suggested the attack was the woke of an isolated extremist, then it turned out he worked with al-qaeda. times square bomber was one-off attack but later attorney general, holder said they helped facilitate it. hayes is saying there is a pattern here of down playing extremists? there is. this president doesn t like the narrative of these attacks being terrorist based. american people knew what this was after benghazi. they knew what they saw acted out live on television with the attacks on n boston. birds of a feather tend to fly together. we know they probably didn t act out on their alone. f.b.i. has explaining to do.