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Congress where i played a role in the founding of the Homeland Security department. I call myself one of its grand mothers. One of its grandfathers that would be thad allen, or i think hes one of the grandfathers, im not sure, is on the call with me and the rest of you children are the successors and i think that it is really wonderful today that we are having i guess hes been phone now, a lot of zoom issues, with chris and a panel organized by meg king who heads our science, technology and Innovation Program and a number of a rest of you on the phone. The topic is whats critical, evolving the security playbook for managing ones, zeros and everything in between. While its not as much fun to see you all or some of you on line, chris is on the phone, its not as much fun to see you in person. If any group could make a conversation interesting its our science, technology a ....

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