oftentimes members of congress i will talk to say, geez, i didn t realize it came out that way or, i m sorry. or no, i meant it and it was a grown-up comment and i ll say and then others that are as the president would say grand standing. i m not saying senator corker is that way. i m saying some people grandstand and kind of enjoy the attention. do you notice a pattern there? john kelly was supposed to reset. he talked around most of those stories. without actually denying any of them. so what happens when one of your chief defenders doesn t actually come to your defense? joining us now are tim o brian, author of trump nation: the art of being the donald. also a msnbc contributor. max boot, senior fellow for studies at the council on foreign relations, a former foreign policy adviser for mccain and neera tanden is president of the american