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Transcripts for MSNBC Dateline 20240604 09:14:00

Said listen, if there was a gun, you need to tell us. if you had a gun, and were shooting back, you would be in your right, as defending yourself. because you being shot at, and they would always say no, there was no gun, a guarantee that. we knew that morning detectives went out to the meadow, in discovered some fascinating evidence. for one thing, shards of broken glass, which clearly marked precisely where the car was, when chad blew out the windows. curious. it was not exactly where chad said it was. and, something else, worries car must have hit a rock during its rush through the meadow. just after it made you turn further out into the meadow. and it started joining the oil out of the car. clear as a giant magic marker, a brownish black trail, through the long grass of the meadow. interesting. now it was something like 12 hours since

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Transcripts for MSNBC Dateline 20240604 09:36:00

Reason chad chase those men said carry, he was no monster. what was his manner of emotional state? distraught. did you ever see him in that manner before? no. was he crying? he. was the whole case of course would boil down to whether chad was fired upon, and chef back in self-defense. also if the evidence backed shut up. i think we pretty will prove that there was a gun, in the victims car, and that they fired at chat. the young men in that car, not exactly boy scouts. the police asked these people if they had guns. and they said no, we wouldn t carry guns. we would never carry guns. in one of them we have a facebook page, displaying both a gun in a knife. it must have been a gun that, nice at olson, because on the root of the chase, investigators found three shell casings, casings that did not match any of chad s guns. the interesting

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Transcripts for MSNBC Dateline 20240604 08:54:00

Kind of starts a circle around the car, the whole while he s pointing the gun at us. looking like a swat team, or something like that coming. when he comes up, he says, you want to shoot in my house, i ve got kids, or something like that. we said we wouldn t shoot your, house we wouldn t do that. so the gunman points the gun right at me and says, look, we didn t shoot your house, please just call an ambulance. and he took off. suddenly, relief. some of the friends had run for cover during the shooting. now they return to the car, but to what, they were alone in the dark. and their friend, the driver, rory, was clearly in bad shape. my friend has just been shot, and said i m shot. we just assumed, we re gonna get back in the car, we re gonna get out of, here and we re gonna get help. somehow they managed to move rory to the back seat of the car. but when one of them turned the key the car wouldn t start. it just kept getting worse and worse. no car, no cell service, no ide

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Transcripts for MSNBC Dateline 20240604 09:25:00

Reason for gun. there would ve been no reason for me to fire, to shoot, to use a firearm. you know my and my friends, these people are trying to kill. me carrie visited her husband in jail. to tell him that she was in his corner. and would always. be no matter what. do you wish that he had just stopped along the way and said, i m done with this. just let them go, and come. back no. because he wouldn t have this problem. now i guess to a point. as far as the problem being that my husband is not a home. but we would still be in fear, of these people would come back to terrorize us more. he was protecting us. he was making sure that we were safe. and then, as the long holiday weekend wound down, he got even worse. for all of them. roy maguire, died. he had image a couple of hours

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Transcripts for MSNBC Dateline 20240604 08:58:00

The man who confronted him. for example, chad accused the young men of firing first. during the car chase. the next thing you know i was looking out, i can see these three flashes, and then i hear crack crack crack. but according to luis, that never happened. what s more he said, chad didn t seem worried they had a gun, when he approached their car. did he at any point say, are you armed? did you have a gun? or throw your weapon away? anything like? that nothing like. that which is kind of confusing, seeing as he accused us of shooting, at his house. but he was pointing a gun at us like we were armed. so he came up to the car and said, were you the one shooting at my house? yes. he didn t say shoot at me at the car? no. odd. remember, chad told the police that the young man shot at him during the chase. did you, ever that night say why are you shooting at me in the car? or you shot at me in the car? anything like that? no nothing. nothing like. that

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