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Transcripts for MSNBC Jose Diaz-Balart Reports 20211122 15:08:00

felony. what s an intent? that s when you form an act that constitutes a substantial step toward the commission of said crime. mr. brian pulled out of his driveway and ran him into a ditch. mr. arbery was able to keep running, right there, criminal attempt to commit false imprisonment. criminal attempt to commit false imprisonment. this is actually what it says in the indictment. in violation of the personal liberty of mr. arbery, okay. guess what? we re citizens of the united states, right. question live here. we have personal liberty, because this is a free country. other people can t go up and stop us and hold us and detain us, okay? they have to actually have seen us commit that crime in order to effectuate a citizen arrest. and they unlawfully chased

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Transcripts for CNN CNN Newsroom With Ana Cabrera 20211122 18:45:00

there for the police. how else does one hold an individual who does not want to be arrested for the police? you have to contain him, not false imprison him, contain him. you have to possibly hold him at gunpoint without firing a shot, not an aggravated assault, but the use of a reasonable and measured amount of force to make him stay where he did not want to stay. so if they were acting within the law in trying to execute a citizen s arrest, to detain aari for the police, then travis had every single right to defend himself. when ahmaud arbery inexplicably

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Transcripts for MSNBC Jose Diaz-Balart Reports 20211122 15:22:00

and hey, you re still going to run away from me? oh, yeah, i m going to come at you. i m going to intercept you over here at the corner. how dare you turn on me. bam! malice. right there. remember, mr. arbery had to have engaged in significant provocation. what did he do? what d mr. arbery do? he ran away for five minutes. he ran away from them. he ran away from them for five minutes. that s what he did. with his hands out at his sides and those baggy shorts he had on, no weapon, no threats, no way to call for help. didn t even have a cell phone on him. he ran away from them for five minutes.

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Transcripts for MSNBC Jose Diaz-Balart Reports 20211122 15:10:00

greg mcmichael said he was trapped like a rat between the two trucks. the ultimate false imprisonment, he never left holmes, did he? never left holmes. ing ary vated assault. did make an assault upon the person of ahmaud arbery with a ford pickup truck and a chevy silverado pickup truck. i ve got a legal note for you. you notice how it says and a, mr. bryan is driving the ford. then he s in the back of the truck. so of course, it doesn t mean and, it s or. okay? i know that sounds crazy. don t you love lawyers. don t you just love lawyers? and means or. so the way you should read this is with a ford f-150 pickup truck or a chevy silverado pickup truck, okay?

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Transcripts for MSNBC Jose Diaz-Balart Reports 20211122 15:37:00

they were committing the four felonies. that s what they were doing. you re going to hear, we weren t committing felonies, we were doing a citizen s arrest. we weren t trying to provoke him into defending himself. you re probably going to hear this. yes, we pointed a shotgun at him to get him to comply with our orders not sure why anyone should comply with their orders to stop and talk to us, but there was no reason for him to defend himself against us. because this was a citizen s arrest. this is the bottom line. this was an attack on ahmaud arbery. they committed the crimes. they committed the fourfulness. they attacked him. they shot and killed him. they can t claim self-defense under the law, because they were the initial unjustified aggressors and they started this and they were committing the felonies against auk mudd

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