bret: chuck, is the calculation here do you think with this administration that this is the time? this is the time to make the big change and we ll just take the heat politically for as long as it takes? will the big change to electric vehicles and so on? bret: big change to make that transition that. would be if this is their calculation it would be a big mistake that big change is not something that can be engineered within six to 12 months. there is a huge, huge reorientation that would be required in all kinds of supply chains, technological adaptation, charger installation and so on. you know, electric may be the future, but not the immediate future. there is we are all learning a lot about where our minerals come from and unfortunately a lot of them come from russia. palladium, nickel these kind of things. bret: and ukraine. huge global shakeout supply