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MSNBC MSNBC Live With Ali Velshi December 9, 2019 20:28:00

So the only person who was a beneficiary from that investigation is president trump. and that s why everyone on the july 25 call knew it was wrong. they knew it was wrong. the investigative committee heard testimony from three witnesses whoim participated in that call. is that correct?th yes. well, listened to that call. right. mr. goldman, even in realtime, the witnesses whon listened on that call, testified they were concerned by the escall. is that correct? yes. and, in fact, both lieutenant colonel vindman and mr. morrison immediately reported the call to legal counsel, is that right? that s right. and why did they r do so? they did it for separate reasons. lieutenant colonel vindman was concerned about the substance vf the call. that it was improper. mr. morrison was concerned about the potential political ramifications if the call was released because of the substance of the call and the political naturee of the call. and they reported the call that they actually ....

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MSNBC MSNBC Live With Ali Velshi December 9, 2019 20:58:00

Conversation. he can meet with the secretary of energy. that s at privileged conversation.ge now, when the majority has subpoenaed those witnesses and the president has refused to produce those witnesses or relevant documents or what they consider relevant documents, they arean charging him with an article of impeachment for obstruction. in fact, their report says the president obstructed the impeachment inquiry by obstructingy witnesses to igno subpoenas. why? gentleman s time has expired. ms. bass. mr. goldman, i want to pick up on the president using the powers ofth his office. in this case in a meeting at the white house to pressure a foreign country to investigate his political rival. now that you veli had time to sp back from the investigation, is there any doubt that the president did, in fact, use a white house visit to pressure president zelensky to announce investigations of his political rival to benefit his re-election campaign? um, i will answer that question in a ....

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MSNBC MSNBC Live With Ali Velshi December 9, 2019 20:45:00

Ambassador sondland. it s amazing. built their case around this ambassador and built their case around hearsay. and the best example ofnd both mr. sondland. because he filed his addendum where he says this. pointed this out s a couple wee ago. bullet point number two. in his clarification, he says ambassador taylor recalls that mr. morrison told ambassador taylor that i told mr. morrison that i conveyed this message to mr. yermak on a september 1st, 2019, in connection with vice president pence s visit to warsaw and a meeting with president zelensky. that s his clarification. amazing. six people, as i said before, having four conversations in one sentence.ti ambassador taylor recalls that mr. morrison told ambassador taylor that i conveyed this message to mr. yermak. and a meeting with president zelensky. that s the clarification. that s their star witness who they built theirr case around. so and so tells so and so what ....

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MSNBC MSNBC Live With Ali Velshi December 9, 2019 20:46:00

Somebody said to someone else and there you have it. that s their case. they forget the four key facts. they forget the fact that we have the call i transcripts and there was no quid pro quo. they forget the guy the two guys on the call have said repeatedly there was no pressure, no linkage, no pushing. they forget the fact ukraine didn t even know aid was withheld. and they forget they did nothing to get the aid released. no announcement of any type of investigationt whatsoever. they forget all that. those keyor facts. they build their case around the guy who had to clarify his testimony with that amazing sentence.gu mr. goldman. mr. goldman, the democrats did the democrats publish phone records of the president s attorney? mr.e giuliani? yes. did the democrats publish phone records of a member of the press? yes,of who was also involvedn this. did the democrats publish phone records of a member of n congress? yes, who was talking to people involved. congress also of happen ....

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MSNBC MSNBC Live With Ali Velshi December 9, 2019 20:41:00

Correct? that s right. yes. it shows a common goal. a correct. to get he goal was foreign help for the 2020 election, correct? that is that s what all theis witnesses said. and, mr. goldman, who was the kingpin of that plan? president trump. thank you, mr. goldman. ambassador bolton called it a drug deal. as a kingpin, president trump tried to force a foreign government to f interfere in th upcoming presidential election. the evidence is undisputed and overwhelming that rudy giuliani acted as part of a conspiracy with president trump to obtain ukrainian helpta for president trump in the 2020 election. this was not just a hurtful drug deal. this was an attempt to undermine the very fabric of our democracy. the framers feared most how foreign influence could turn a ....

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