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Pick for secretary of state is a former trump lawyer who tried to help him overturn legitimate election results in pennsylvania back in 2020. it all goes to show that the real front lines in the battle for democracy are not here in washington, d.c., but in the states. joining me now, david pepper, former ohio democratic party chair and the author of laboratories of autocracy and ross wilbur. iowa democratic chair. chair wilbur, let me start with you. just how are you and your family in the wake of the threats you ve been getting since speaking your mind? thank you so much for letting me be on the show. we re doing fine. still concerned with the hatred ....
That s being spewed. what happened to me was bad but i just was at a fund-raiser for some county supervisors and at a school board forum, you know, there were some issues there with a group that had showed up so it s, again, the main reason i came forward was just to let people know that this is going on not just around the country. i d rather be here talking about infrastructure, child care, tax kres dids but here we are. senator grassley, senator from iowa put out a statement in response to the lynching threat. racism and threats of violence are never acceptable. the threats against chair wilbur is being investigated. those responsible should be held accountable. we ought to be able to have civil respectful political discussions in this country with our neighbors. ....
Chair wilbur, i mean, is that even possible anymore given the tenor of our politics since june 16th, 2015? i heard from, you know, senator grassley, the post, our governor. i ve heard specifically from some of my colleagues in the iowa statehouse and saw those tweets. i appreciate the concern, but it takes more than words of condemnation to stop these kinds of threats and fight back against hate. some of the policies that have gone in place even before this and people need to connect the dots that they re contributing to that atmosphere of chaos. our governor signed a bill that increased penalties for people protesting in the streets. if a driver hits someone they can get civil immunity. these are hard to discuss systemic racism. ....