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andy, first of all, we ve not made any decision about arming the rebels or providing any arms transfers. so there has not been any any need to discuss that at this point. we did discuss nonlethal assistance. we discussed ways of trying to enable the transition national council to meet a lot of their financial needs and how we could do that through the international community given the challenges that sanctions pose but recognizing that they obviously are going to need funds to keep themselves going. we discussed a broad range of matters and certainly their presentation which some of you may have seen earlier today as to what kind of civil society and political structure they are trying to build in libya are ....
Make libya into a country where al qaeda could gain a foothold would be to to right a long-term stalemate of a civil war. so the best way to keep al qaeda out is for gadhafi to go and the libyan people to have a an to ectthr ngornnt eemfihts, the opposition to gadhafi have chosen to lead them and they re very reputable and i think trustworthy people. do we know everything about everybody in the opposition to gadhafi, no, we don t. but i thought that secretary clinton was right to the point just now when she said, we don t have any evidence of al qaeda or such groups actively being involved in the opposition of libya. and i tell you, my feeling is gadhafi s got to go and there s only one alternative to gadhafi, that s the opposition, the free libya movement. and it is that group that we should be supporting right now, ....
Path for the opposition to gadhafi to make progresses they have. not only as the president said quite correctly to his credit last night, did the coalition and the now nato involvement stop a massacre in benghazi that definitely would have occurred. we ve allowed the opposition forces to gadhafi to now move west in a very assertive way. but general carter hamm the american general heads our command has been in charge of all of our activities in libya and now turning over to nato said yesterday quite correctly that the progress that the opposition to gadhafi has made is significant, but fragile, but most of it has depended on the support from the air that the u.s. and our ally governments have given them. you re not suggesting that we should have ground forces involved? no i m not. if this becomes a long ....
Secondly, i do think that greater transparency will of course be expected and will be delivered. but i think you have to put this into context. i mean, this is a very fast evolving, but by no means, settled structure that they are trying to build. they also claim to have a number of people who are willing to work with them from central and western libya who for security reasons cannot yet be named. so i do think that this is a work in progress, and just as with respect to andy s question, we don t know as much as we would like to know and as much as we expect we will know. we re picking up information. a lot of contact is going on. not oly bouveme, b ma gerenhat a pt tcoitn. so we re building an understanding. but at this time, obviously it ....
Of demonstrators, in particular the violence and killing of civilians in the hands of security forces. i also discussed efforts that e undertaken by the organization of the islamic conference, particularly our joint effort to pass a resolution at the human rights counc they promotes tolerance and respect as well as free expression. and we greatly appreciate the oic hosting a meeting of the international contact group on afghanistan and pakistan in jeda. i was also able to consult on a number of regional matters including of course libya with foreign ministers of turkey. so it was a full day for all of us. we came to london to speak with one voice in support of a transition that leads to a brighter future for the libyan people. i m very pleased with the progress that we have made both ....